Bedford Autodrome Lap Times - EVO - Page 2

Bruce · 10-16-2006, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinbo

More that just track temperature, 7.3 AMG, but air temperature, humidity and atmospheric pressure have a significant influence on an engine's performance - especially naturally aspirated (as in the case of the RS4) engines.

That's what i meant by track tempature. Air temp, asphalt temp. Agreed with the atmospheric too, i am to believe extreme hot weather tempatures can slow vehicles down due to the engine's breathing.

Anyways you guys seem to know a lot more about EVO's test track and drivers than i do, i'm a Sport Auto man.

martinbo · 10-16-2006, 12:24 PM

Someone please educate me on the sport chassis option. We get the option to fit 19" wheels down here but I've not heard of a sportier chassis setting...

What mods does the option entail? Stiffer, lowered suspension, stiffer anti-roll bars? I just don't know...

Just_me · 10-16-2006, 12:25 PM

Both RS4 testes

http://germancarzone.com/showthread.php?t=2699

RS4 vs m3 vs C55
http://germancarzone.com/showthread.php?t=2417

This is what I meant earlier:

The way you can use the M3's tail to point the car into the apex is very effective, particulary through Bank and the last two corners. It would've have gone quicker had it not been delivered on new tyres."

Its too bad that testers dont think about ta thing like the "new tires on M3" before they test the cars properly. Now we dont know what time the M3 would get with proper tires

PC Valkyrie · 10-16-2006, 12:25 PM

Guys, I hope this thread doesn't turn into another RS4 vs M3 vs C55 type of thread. My intention was to point out the degree of "accuracty/precision" with laptimes such as these, and I used the different RS4 times on the same track and the very close times between some cars as examples.

Just_me · 10-16-2006, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinbo

Someone please educate me on the sport chassis option. We get the option to fit 19" wheels down here but I've not heard of a sportier chassis setting...

What mods does the option entail? Stiffer, lowered suspension, stiffer anti-roll bars? I just don't know...

Im not 100% sure but I assume it stiffen up the chassi (even without the sportchassi, the chassi is already stiff (speaking of personal experience) so I dont see why someone order with the sportchassi but I guess its for those who use their RS4 a lot on a track.

can you get ceramic brakes on the RS4 where you live?

Just_me · 10-16-2006, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PC Valkyrie

Guys, I hope this thread doesn't turn into another RS4 vs M3 vs C55 type of thread. My intention was to point out the degree of "accuracty/precision" with laptimes such as these, and I used the different RS4 times on the same track and the very close times between some cars as examples.

Dont worry Valkyrie

martinbo · 10-16-2006, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just_me

Im not 100% sure but I assume it stiffen up the chassi (even without the sportchassi, the chassi is already stiff (speaking of personal experience) so I dont see why someone order with the sportchassi but I guess its for those who use their RS4 a lot on a track.

can you get ceramic brakes on the RS4 where you live?

Crazy - you're quite right of course - as if an RS4 chassis isn't stiff enough or lowered enough. Can there possibly be the need for a sportier chassis?!?

Nope, I don't think we get the ceramic brakes option here in SA to the best of my knowledge.

Bruce · 11-04-2006, 06:32 PM

New ones:

1:26.85 - Porsche Cayman S
1:26.95 - Nissan 350Z GT-S
1:27.10 - BMW Z4M Coupe
1:30.10 - Lotus Europa S

Centurion · 11-06-2006, 06:56 PM

Wow the Cayman is a beat, barely a second slower than the Vantage, M6 and 996TT. now if only Porsche would give it a 450hp engine to that we could see its full potential.

Mr. M · 11-06-2006, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7.3 AMG

I've completed a list of lap times complete by British magazine EVO at the Bedford Autodrome, west circuit.

1:24.55 - Mitsubishi EVO IX FQ340
1:26.40 - Subaru Impreza WRX STI
1:28.25 - Audi RS4
1:28.35 - Maserati Quattroporte
1:29.95 - BMW E60 M5
1:30.11 - Mercedes-Benz C55 AMG
1:34.60 - Chrysler 300C 5.7
1:35.50 *Damp - Mercedes-Benz CLS55 AMG

I think the Quattroporte is doing very well among these sedans... It's heavy (1970kg) and it has 'only' 400bhp.

However, its prowess at the track sacrifices its practicality on the road. The gearbox is the main concern here.

In that regard, cars like the RS4 and the M5 offer a better balance of sport and practicality.

10-16-2006, 12:24 PM	#12
martinbo Fanatic Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Johannesburg Posts: 1,701 Thanks: 324 Thanked 531 Times in 269 Posts	Re: Bedford Autodrome Lap Times - EVO Someone please educate me on the sport chassis option. We get the option to fit 19" wheels down here but I've not heard of a sportier chassis setting... What mods does the option entail? Stiffer, lowered suspension, stiffer anti-roll bars? I just don't know...

10-16-2006, 12:25 PM	#13
Just_me Executive Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 15,487 Thanks: 1,062 Thanked 3,722 Times in 1,583 Posts	Re: Bedford Autodrome Lap Times - EVO Both RS4 testes http://germancarzone.com/showthread.php?t=2699 RS4 vs m3 vs C55 http://germancarzone.com/showthread.php?t=2417 This is what I meant earlier: The way you can use the M3's tail to point the car into the apex is very effective, particulary through Bank and the last two corners. It would've have gone quicker had it not been delivered on new tyres." Its too bad that testers dont think about ta thing like the "new tires on M3" before they test the cars properly. Now we dont know what time the M3 would get with proper tires

10-16-2006, 12:25 PM	#14
PC Valkyrie Advocate Join Date: May 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 648 Thanks: 0 Thanked 335 Times in 133 Posts	Re: Bedford Autodrome Lap Times - EVO Guys, I hope this thread doesn't turn into another RS4 vs M3 vs C55 type of thread. My intention was to point out the degree of "accuracty/precision" with laptimes such as these, and I used the different RS4 times on the same track and the very close times between some cars as examples.

11-04-2006, 06:32 PM	#18
Bruce Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 10,183 Thanks: 5,331 Thanked 3,852 Times in 2,260 Posts	Re: Bedford Autodrome Lap Times - EVO New ones: 1:26.85 - Porsche Cayman S 1:26.95 - Nissan 350Z GT-S 1:27.10 - BMW Z4M Coupe 1:30.10 - Lotus Europa S

11-06-2006, 06:56 PM	#19
Centurion Jetsetter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 9,202 Thanks: 1,037 Thanked 1,507 Times in 805 Posts	Re: Bedford Autodrome Lap Times - EVO Wow the Cayman is a beat, barely a second slower than the Vantage, M6 and 996TT. now if only Porsche would give it a 450hp engine to that we could see its full potential.

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