Bruce

Here’s the newest edition to the Sport Auto threads, their wet-water handling course.

This is a rather new addition to Sport Auto’s Supertest so the list

*All tests done with traction control on - See second page of this thread

*All tests done with traction control on



1:27.2 - Porsche 997 GT3
1:27.5 - Audi B7 RS4
1:27.4 - Porsche 997 GT3RS
1:28.4 - Porsche 997 Carrera S
1:29.0 - Audi R8
1:29.1 – Porsche Cayman S
1:29.2 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640
1:29.6 - Maserati GranSport
1:29.7 - Porsche 997 GT2
1:30.3 - Chevrolet Corvette C6
1:30.7 - Volkswagen R32 MK2
1:30.9 - Porsche 987 Boxster S
1:31.0 - BMW M6
1:31.0 - Audi 2.0 TT TFSI
1:31.0 - Renault Megane Sport Auto Trophy
1:31.3 - Audi S3, 2007
1:31.5 - Steinmetz Opel Astra OPC
1:31.6 - Porsche 997 Turbo
1:31.8 - Ford GT
1:31.8 - Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano
1:32.2 - Alpina Roadster S
1:32.7 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
1:33.4 - Aston Martin V8 Vantage
1:33.5 - Koenigsegg CCR
1:33.6 - Mazda 3 MPS
1:34.1 - BMW 130i Sports Package
1:34.1 - Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
1:34.2 - Pagani Zonda F
1:34.2 - BMW Z4 3.0 CSi
1:34.7 - MTM VW Golf V GTI
1:34.8 - Jaguar XKR, 2007
1:35.1 - Volkswagen Golf GTi DSG
1:35.6 - Mercedes-Benz SL65
1:35.7 - BMW E60 M5
1:35.8 - BMW 335i
1:36.2 - Mercedes-Benz CLK DTM
1:36.5 - AC Schnitzer 6er Tension
1:37.6 - Mercedes-Benz SLK55 AMG
1:38.2 - Ferrari F430


I've obtained new information on this test which I did not know before!

All of the wet water course tests are done with the traction control systems on - except of course with the vehicles which do not have the system (IE. Ford GT) This helps clarify much.

For example, magazines have stated numerous times before that the TC system on the 997 GT3 is the same one found on the Carrera GT - and that particular system is known to allow a lot 'play' before it's activates. This obviously helped the GT3 acheive it's superb lap times.

On the F430 matter,

I'm not sure If anybody recently watched Best Motoring's test of the F430, but in case you haven't, they ran the F430 on a wet circle track attempting to drift the vehicle - they tried this operation with all five settings and they found the rain and snow mode to be extremely intrusive. I would assume the F430 was run in "rain" mode and that meant the acceleration was extremely limited.

dOmInIX

F430 >

GT3 >

Tumbo

Now this is really Audis "home". Now really if you say something like "oh the RS4 is so hight up there caue of this and that, then you are too much!). Congrats Audi. I can't wait for the R8 time!!

klier

The RS4 is so high because it has 4 wheel drive. Together with the R32, it are the only cars with 4 wheel drive, hence their high positions on this list.


The RS4 and R32 are fakes on this list. Different setups don't count imo.

Top Secret

Am I the only one completely gobsmacked at the GT3's time? That is some feat! You would think that the tailly nature of the 911, light weight and large amount of horsepower would've counted against it, but wow! I can only imagine how much grip that car has.

One question though, is there a set amount on how "wet" the handling course is? I would have to think a set amount of water is on the track to ensure consistent results.

Tumbo

A T-Y-P-I-C-A-L answer from a BMW biased person that just can't admit defeat. It sickens me.

MikeJ

OK, here's a special list, just for you:

Rear-engined RWD cars:
1:27.2 - Porsche 997 GT3
1:28.4 - Porsche 997 Carrera S

Front-engined AWD cars:
1:27.5 - Audi B7 RS4
1:30.7 - Volkswagen R32 MK2

Mid-engined RWD cars:
1:29.1 – Porsche Cayman S
1:31.8 - Ford GT
1:33.5 - Koenigsegg CCR
1:34.2 - Pagani Zonda F
1:38.2 - Ferrari F430

Front-engined RWD cars:
1:29.6 - Maserati GranSport
1:30.3 - Chevrolet Corvette C6
1:31.0 - BMW M6
1:32.2 - Alpina Roadster S
1:33.4 - Aston Martin V8 Vantage
1:34.2 - BMW Z4 3.0 CSi
1:35.6 - Mercedes-Benz SL65
1:35.7 - BMW E60 M5
1:35.8 - BMW 335i
1:36.2 - Mercedes-Benz CLK DTM
1:37.6 - Mercedes-Benz SLK55 AMG

Front-engined FWD cars:
1:35.1 - Volkswagen Golf GTi DSG

Happy now?

Bruce

I am not aware of the exact amount of water, but according to Sport Auto the water levels are always indentical.

Everyone can see a little section of the course here...

Alx

im blown away that the C6 can handle that well on a wet track... Incredible....

As for Porsche i never expected any less.

donau

Another great thread. Thanks for sharing!