Matt

However much we may despise Clarkson's view on cars no one can argue the fact that Top Gear is some great entertainment and Clarkson is quite a journalist.
I have decided to make a top gear list that will be updated every time a new car is posted on the big board. The list itself may be somewhat inconsistent (because of the swapping of stigs and what not) however having more resources to study laptimes allows us to make better arguments. In addition many cars can perform well on one track (hockenheim or nurburgring) and then terribly on another because certain tracks bring out certain handling qualities and falacies in cars. So this gives the opportunity to compare cars even though its an arguable source and has somewhat contadicting results..













1 Koenigsegg CCX (with TG spoiler)....................................1.17.6
2 Pagani Zonda F................................................. ...........1.18.4
3 Maserati MC12.............................................. ...............1.18.9
4 Ferrari Enzo.............................................. ...................1.19.0
5 Ariel Atom.............................................. .....................1.19.5
6 Murcielago LP640............................................. ............ 1.19.8
6 Porsche Carrera GT................................................ .......1.19.8
8 Koenigsegg CCX............................................... .............1.20.4
9 Ascari KZ1............................................... ....................1.20.7
10 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren........................................... 1.20.9
11 Ford GT................................................ .....................1.21.9
12 Porsche GT3 RS................................................ ...........1.22.3
12 Ferrari 360 CS................................................ .............1.22.3
14 Chevrolet Corvette Z06............................................... ..1.22.4
15 Lamborghini Murcielago........................................ ..........1.23.7
16 Pagani Zonda............................................. ..................1.23.8
17 Noble M15............................................... ....................1.23.9
18 Koenigsegg........................................ ..........................1.23.9
19 Prodrive P2................................................ ..................1.24.3
20 TVR Sagaris........................................... ......................1.24.6
21 TVR Tuscan............................................ .....................1.24.8
21 Mitsubishi Evo FQ 400............................................... .....1.24.8
23 Noble............................................. .............................1.25.0
24 Lotus Exige S................................................. ...............1.25.1
25 Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder............................................ .1.25.7
26 Lamborghini Gallardo.......................................... .............1.25.8 (Wet)
27 Morgan Aero 8 GTN............................................... .........1.25.9
28 BMW Z4 M roadster.......................................... ..............1.26.0
29 BMW M5................................................ .......................1.26.2
30 Porsche Cayman............................................ ................1.26.2
31 Ferrari 575 GTC............................................... ...............1.26.8
31 Chevrolet Corvette.......................................... ...............1.26.8
33 Mercedes-Benz CLS 55 AMG.............................................1. 26.9
33 Lotus Exige............................................. ......................1.26.9 (Wet)
35 Porsche 911 GT3............................................... .............1.27.2 (Wet)
36 Spyker C8................................................ .....................1.27.3
37 TVR 350C.............................................. ........................1.27.5
38 Wiesmann.......................................... ............................1.27.9
39 BMW M3 CSL............................................... ...................1.28.0 (Wet)
40 Roush Mustang........................................... .....................1.28.0
41 Marcos TSO GT2............................................... ..............1.28.2
42 Dodge Viper SRT-10................................................ .........1.28.5 (wet)
43 MG SV................................................ ...........................1.28.6
44 Mitsubishi Evo VIII.............................................. .............1.28.9
45 Porsche 911 Carrera S................................................. ....1.28.9 (Wet)
46 Mercedes-Benz CL65.............................................. ..........1.29.0
47 BMW Alpina Z8................................................ ................1.29.0
48 Subaru Impreza STi WRX WR1............................................1.2 9.4
49 Alfa Romeo 3.7 GTA............................................... ...........1.30.0
50 Shelby Mustang GT500............................................. .........1:30.0
51 Vauxhall Monaro VXR............................................... .........1.30.1
52 Subaru Impreza STI............................................... ...........1.30.1
53 Volkswagen Golf R32............................................... ..........1.30.4
54 Aston Martin DB7 GT................................................ .........1.30.4
55 Audi S4................................................ ...........................1.30.9
56 Porsche 911 turbo............................................. ..............1.31.0 (Wet)
57 Vauxhall VX220 turbo............................................. .............1.31.3
58 Audi 2.0 TT TFSi .................................................. ............ 1:31.4
59 Honda NSX Type-R................................................. .........1.31.6 (Wet)
60 BMW 535d.............................................. ...........................1.31.8
61 Mazda RX8............................................... .........................1.31.8
62 Nissan 350Z.............................................. .........................1.31.8
63 BMW M3................................................ ............................1.31.8
64 BMW 130............................................... ............................1.31.9
65 Mazda RX8............................................... .......................... 1:32.0
66 Ford Focus RS................................................ ....................1.32.2
67 Lotus Esprit V8................................................ ...................1.32.5
68 Audi TT V6................................................ .........................1.32.7
69 Jaguar E-Type.............................................. ......................1.32.8
70 MG ZT................................................ ...............................1.33.0
71 Noble............................................. ...............................1.33.1 (Wet)
72 Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG............................................... ..1.33.2 (Wet)
73 Corvette Cadillac CTS-V................................................. .......1.33.3
74 Renault Clio Cup............................................... ....................1.33.8
75 Holden Monaro............................................ .........................1.33.9
76 Ford Mondeo ST220............................................. .................1.34.5
77 Jaguar XKR............................................... ...........................1.34.7 (very wet)
78 Ford Focus ST................................................ .....................1.34.9
79 Volvo S60R.............................................. ............................1.35.0
80 Vauxhall Vectra VXR............................................... ...............1.35.3
81 Alfa Romeo 147 GTA............................................... ...............1.35.6
82 Lotus Elise............................................. ..............................1.35.6
83 Aston Martin Vanquish.......................................... ..................1.36.2
84 Renault Clio v6................................................ ......................1.36.2
85 Honda Civic Type-R................................................. ........1.36.5 (Wet)
86 Alfa Romeo Brera 2.0 .................................................. ........1:36.9
87 Saab 95 hot aero.............................................. .....................1.37.9
88 Mazzer............................................ .....................................1.38.0
89 Bowler Wildcat........................................... ............................1.39.4
90 Bentley Arnarge........................................... ..........................1.40.8
91 Overfinch......................................... .....................................1.44.0
92 Aston Martin DB5............................................... ....................1.46.0

Bruce

Nice thread Matt Karma well deserved


Might i add, maybe this should be moved to our "Test Data forum"

Matt

Thanks! I didnt know we had one....Yea i guess this should be moved in that case.

Bruce

Yeah, it was implemented a few days ago:

http://www.germancarzone.com/forumdisplay.php?f=41

It don't think most people even know we have it

CarGuy

The RS4 is missing.

bum-man

The Ariel Atom is impressive.

Matt

There was never an official RS4 time....Jeremy Clarkson mentioned something but they never actually took it on the track.

Bruce

Hey Matt, i've got another Stig picture for you

Matt

I didnt know what that was at first--then i realized it was a zonda...figures!

Just_me

many cars was on the list was done on damp or wet track, for instance M3 CSL and a lot more.