Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes

Just_me · 09-27-2005, 05:13 AM

I noticed there is a lot of talking about laptimes. Since Sportauto is a well-known source and well-resepected source around the world and the most fairness source we have, Im starting a list about Sportautos laptimes. Factory times wont be included in this thread.

Sportauto always use the same driver, they always test the cars they way they leave the factory. They tell us a lot of details, such as airtemperature, asphalttemperature, roadconditions, tires and so on.

Sportauto's notes regarding Nordschleife:
For a fast and meaningful round time on the Nordschleife north loop a very soft, round and clean style of driving on the ideal line is crucial. Weaknesses during the chassis tuning are relentlessly uncovered.
Apart from the round time also the brake delays, transverse accelerations and the speeds at all points of the distance are taken up.

*I will update this list every time a new car has been tested by SportAuto*
*The latest car tested by SportAuto will be marked in green*

SportAuto, Nürburgring (Nordschleife):

Porsche Carrera GT ------------------------------------- 7.32 min
Porsche GTR 600 Gemballa ---------------------------- 7.32,52 min
Pagani Zonda F ----------------------------- 7.33 min
Porsche 997 GT2 ----------------------------------------- 7.33 min
Koenigsegg CCR --------------------------- 7.34 min ( Swedish power

)
Porsche 997 TechArt GT street (630hp) -------------------- 7.39 min
Porsche Carrera GT ------------------------------------- 7.40 min (wet track)
Porsche 911 Techart GT (620hp) ---------------------- 7.43 min
Pagani Zonda S ----------------------------------------- 7.44 min
Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera --------------------------- 7.46 min
Porsche 911 GT2 (462hp) ------------------------------ 7.46 min
Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 -------------------------------- 7.47 min
Porsche 996 GT3 RS ----------------------------------------- 7.47 min
Ferrari 599 GTB -----------------------------------------------7.47 min
Porsche 997 GT3 RS ----------------------------------------- 7.48 min (R-tire)
Porsche 997 GT3 ----------------------------------------- 7.48 min (R compound tires)
Corvette C6 Z06 ------------------------------------------ 7.49 min
Lamborghini Murciélago -------------------------------- 7.50 min
BMW M3 CSL -------------------------------------------- 7.50 min
Ford GT -------------------------------------------------- 7.52 min
Lamborghini Gallardo ----------------------------------- 7.52 min
Mercedes SLR ------------------------------------------- 7.52 min
Porsche 997 Turbo ---------------------------- 7.54 min (semi-R-tires)
Porsche 911 GT3 (2003) ------------------------------- 7.54 min
Mercedes CLK-DTM ------------------------------------- 7.54 min (R-tires)
Ferrari F430 ------------------------------------------- 7.55 min
Porsche 996 Turbo (420hp) ---------------------------- 7.56 min
Ferrari 360 CS ------------------------------------------- 7.56 min
BMW M6 AC Schnitz. Tensi. (552hp) --------------------------- 7.57 min (R-tires)
Lotec-Porsche 993 BiTurbo (1998) --------------------- 7.57 min
Porsche 911 GT3 (old) ---------------------------------- 8.03 min
Aston Martin V8 Vantage --------------------------------- 8.03 min (R-tires)
Lamborghini Diablo GT --------------------------------- 8.04 min
Audi R8 -------------------------------------------------- 8.04 min (R compound tires)
BMW M3 E92 --------------- ----------------------------- 8.05 min (R compound tires)
Porsche Carrera S (997) -------------------------------- 8.05 min
Ferrari 575M --------------------------------------------- 8.05 min
Ferrari 550M --------------------------------------------- 8.07 min
BMW M6 -------------------------------------------------- 8.09 min
Ferrari 360M --------------------------------------------- 8.09 min
Honda NSX-R -------------------------------------------- 8.09 min
Audi RS4 ------------------------------------------------- 8.09 min (R compound tires)
Lamborghini Diablo SV ---------------------------------- 8.09 min
Viper GTS (1997) ---------------------------------------- 8.10 min
Donkervoort D8 180R ----------------------------------- 8.10 min
Mercedes SL 55 ------------------------------------------ 8.12 min
Aston Martin V8 Vantage ------------------------------ 8.13 min (without R-tires)
BMW M5 E60 --------------------------------------------- 8.13 min
Viper SRT-10 --------------------------------------------- 8.13 min
Lotus Esprit Sport 350 ---------------------------------- 8.13 min
Mercedes SLK55 Black Series ------------------------------------------8.14 min (R-tires)
Mercedes SL 65 ------------------------------------------ 8.14 min
Corvette C6 ---------------------------------------------- 8.15 min
Z4 Alpina Roadster S------------------------------------- 8.15 min
Z4 V8 Topster -------------------------------------------- 8.16 min
Aston Martin DB9 ----------------------------------------- 8.16 min
AC Schnitzer-BMW CLS II (E36) ------------------------- 8.16 min
Aston Martin Vanquish ----------------------------------- 8.17 min
Porsche 996 C2 ------------------------------------------ 8.17 min
Maserati GranSport ------------------------------------- 8.18 min
Ferrari F355----------------------------------------------- 8.18 min
BMW Z8 --------------------------------------------------- 8.18 min
Corvette C5 Com. Edition -------------------------------- 8.18 min
Audi RS6 -------------------------------------------------- 8.20 min
BMW M3 E46 ---------------------------------------------- 8.22 min
Mercedes C55 --------------------------------------------- 8.22 min
BMW Z3M Coupé ------------------------------------------ 8.22 min
Porsche Boxster S ----------------------------------------- 8.23 min
Porsche 996 C4 ------------------------------------------ 8.23 min
Mercedes SLK 55 ------------------------------------------ 8.24 min
Subaru Impreza WRX STi (265hp) ------------------------- 8.24 min
Porsche Cayman S --------------------------------------- 8.25 min
Jaguar XKR (415hp) --------------------------------------- 8.25 min
Audi RS4 (old) --------------------------------------------- 8.25 min
Mitsubishi EVO7 -------------------------------------------- 8.25 min
BMW 335i --------------------------------------------- 8.26 min
Nissan 350Z ------------------------------------------------ 8.26 min
Mercedes SLK 32 ------------------------------------------- 8.26 min
BMW M5 E39 ------------------------------------------------ 8.28 min
Audi S4 Avant (new) ---------------------------------------- 8.29 min
Maserati Coupé Cambiocorsa ------------------------------ 8.30 min
BMW Z4 3.0 SMG (231hp) --------------------------------- 8.32 min
BMW Z3M Roadster ---------------------------------------- 8.32 min
Lotus Exige -------------------------------------------------- 8.32 min
Porsche Boxster S (252 hp) -------------------------------- 8.32 min
BMW Z4 3.0 Coupé ----------------------------------------- 8.32 min
Opel Speedster --------------------------------------------- 8.34 min
Brabus-Mercedes C V8 Sportcoupé ------------------------ 8.35 min
Mercedes C32 ---------------------------------------------- 8.37 min
Golf R32 ----------------------------------------------------- 8.37 min
Subaru Impreza GT (218hp) ------------------------------- 8.37 min
Maserati 3200 GT ------------------------------------------- 8.37 min
Mercedes SL 500 -------------------------------------------- 8.38 min
Brabus-Mercedes CLK 5.8 (1998) -------------------------- 8.38 min
Morgan Aero 8 ----------------------------------------------- 8.39 min
Honda S2000 ------------------------------------------------ 8.39 min
Audi TT 2.0 TFSI --------------------------------------------- 8.40 min
Audi S3 (1999) ---------------------------------------------- 8.41 min
Audi S4 (old) ------------------------------------------------ 8.42 min
Honda Civic Type-R ----------------------------------------- 8.47 min
Renault Clio Sport V6 (226hp) ----------------------------- 8.49 min
Audi TT 1.8T quattro ---------------------------------------- 8.49 min
Jaguar XKR (1998) ------------------------------------------ 8.49 min
Alfa 156 GTA ------------------------------------------------- 8.51 min
Mercedes C43 AMG ------------------------------------------ 8.51 min
Golf GTI DSG (200hp) --------------------------------------- 8.52 min
Golf GTI 1.8T ------------------------------------------------ 8.54 min
Mini Cooper S Works ---------------------------------------- 8.55 min
Mercedes SLK 230 (2001) ----------------------------------- 9.07 min

Alx · 09-27-2005, 10:17 AM

very impressive time, that Aston is wild to pull 8.03. Must be an unreal drive!!!

That is officially super car times.

I really underestimated their V8.

Just_me · 09-27-2005, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlxAmg

very impressive time, that Aston is wild to pull 8.03. Must be an unreal drive!!!

Just for the record, the time 8.03 min is done with R-tires and the time 8.13 min without R-tires.

Just_me · 10-14-2005, 04:32 AM

List updated: Golf GTI DSG 200hp, time 8.52 min

The Artist · 10-14-2005, 07:28 AM

Zonda F should be No1.. they will show us the time soon.. and if you just want sportauto times.. then just wait until they try it cause if they have talented drivers.. it should be on top..

PS
They should test the Zonda F CS so that there could be a gap on top..hehe

Just_me · 10-14-2005, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Artist

Zonda F should be No1.. they will show us the time soon.. and if you just want sportauto times.. then just wait until they try it cause if they have talented drivers.. it should be on top..

PS
They should test the Zonda F CS so that there could be a gap on top..hehe

sportauto has one driver and he is very talented, been drinving cars since he was little and done a lot competitions, he is a pro. He drove the CGT in 7.32 min and the rumours say he has driven the new Zonda but its not officiell yet.

dOmInIX · 10-14-2005, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just_me

sportauto has one driver and he is very talented, been drinving cars since he was little and done a lot competitions, he is a pro. He drove the CGT in 7.32 min and the rumours say he has driven the new Zonda but its not officiell yet.

Walter Rohrl said he can do the best time in CGT whenever he wants, because he HAS EXPIRIENCE (Group B...)

Just_me · 10-14-2005, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dOmInIX

Walter Rohrl said he can do the best time in CGT whenever he wants, because he HAS EXPIRIENCE (Group B...)

sure he can but so can HvS. HvS holds the record for fastest production car around Nordschleife, time 7.32 min. Sportautos times are officiell times. Remember this is times from sportauto and not factory times so dont involve factory drivers. Thanks.

Maserati · 10-14-2005, 07:59 AM

SL55 faster than E60 M5 .. thats interesting ..

C55 and E46 M4 are even ....

Just_me · 10-14-2005, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJaaFY

SL55 faster than E60 M5 .. thats interesting ..

C55 and E46 M4 are even ....

no not really since there are not same type of car. BMW Z8 which is a roadster like SL55 have a time of 8.17 min with 400hp. Roadsters has better handling than 4-doors cause of lower center of gravity. So far, the M5 is fastest 4-door sedan but probably only until RS4 has been tested.

BTW SL65 is slower than both M5 and SL55. Next issue of Sportauto, the M6 will be tested, I expect a time less than 8.10 min.

09-27-2005, 05:13 AM	#1
Just_me Executive Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 15,498 Thanks: 1,062 Thanked 3,722 Times in 1,583 Posts	Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes I noticed there is a lot of talking about laptimes. Since Sportauto is a well-known source and well-resepected source around the world and the most fairness source we have, Im starting a list about Sportautos laptimes. Factory times wont be included in this thread. Sportauto always use the same driver, they always test the cars they way they leave the factory. They tell us a lot of details, such as airtemperature, asphalttemperature, roadconditions, tires and so on. Sportauto's notes regarding Nordschleife: For a fast and meaningful round time on the Nordschleife north loop a very soft, round and clean style of driving on the ideal line is crucial. Weaknesses during the chassis tuning are relentlessly uncovered. Apart from the round time also the brake delays, transverse accelerations and the speeds at all points of the distance are taken up. I will update this list every time a new car has been tested by SportAuto *The latest car tested by SportAuto will be marked in green* SportAuto, Nürburgring (Nordschleife): Porsche Carrera GT ------------------------------------- 7.32 min Porsche GTR 600 Gemballa ---------------------------- 7.32,52 min Pagani Zonda F ----------------------------- 7.33 min Porsche 997 GT2 ----------------------------------------- 7.33 min Koenigsegg CCR --------------------------- 7.34 min ( Swedish power ) Porsche 997 TechArt GT street (630hp) -------------------- 7.39 min Porsche Carrera GT ------------------------------------- 7.40 min (wet track) Porsche 911 Techart GT (620hp) ---------------------- 7.43 min Pagani Zonda S ----------------------------------------- 7.44 min Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera --------------------------- 7.46 min Porsche 911 GT2 (462hp) ------------------------------ 7.46 min Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 -------------------------------- 7.47 min Porsche 996 GT3 RS ----------------------------------------- 7.47 min Ferrari 599 GTB -----------------------------------------------7.47 min Porsche 997 GT3 RS ----------------------------------------- 7.48 min (R-tire) Porsche 997 GT3 ----------------------------------------- 7.48 min (R compound tires) Corvette C6 Z06 ------------------------------------------ 7.49 min Lamborghini Murciélago -------------------------------- 7.50 min BMW M3 CSL -------------------------------------------- 7.50 min Ford GT -------------------------------------------------- 7.52 min Lamborghini Gallardo ----------------------------------- 7.52 min Mercedes SLR ------------------------------------------- 7.52 min Porsche 997 Turbo ---------------------------- 7.54 min (semi-R-tires) Porsche 911 GT3 (2003) ------------------------------- 7.54 min Mercedes CLK-DTM ------------------------------------- 7.54 min (R-tires) Ferrari F430 ------------------------------------------- 7.55 min Porsche 996 Turbo (420hp) ---------------------------- 7.56 min Ferrari 360 CS ------------------------------------------- 7.56 min BMW M6 AC Schnitz. Tensi. (552hp) --------------------------- 7.57 min (R-tires) Lotec-Porsche 993 BiTurbo (1998) --------------------- 7.57 min Porsche 911 GT3 (old) ---------------------------------- 8.03 min Aston Martin V8 Vantage --------------------------------- 8.03 min (R-tires) Lamborghini Diablo GT --------------------------------- 8.04 min Audi R8 -------------------------------------------------- 8.04 min (R compound tires) BMW M3 E92 --------------- ----------------------------- 8.05 min (R compound tires) Porsche Carrera S (997) -------------------------------- 8.05 min Ferrari 575M --------------------------------------------- 8.05 min Ferrari 550M --------------------------------------------- 8.07 min BMW M6 -------------------------------------------------- 8.09 min Ferrari 360M --------------------------------------------- 8.09 min Honda NSX-R -------------------------------------------- 8.09 min Audi RS4 ------------------------------------------------- 8.09 min (R compound tires) Lamborghini Diablo SV ---------------------------------- 8.09 min Viper GTS (1997) ---------------------------------------- 8.10 min Donkervoort D8 180R ----------------------------------- 8.10 min Mercedes SL 55 ------------------------------------------ 8.12 min Aston Martin V8 Vantage ------------------------------ 8.13 min (without R-tires) BMW M5 E60 --------------------------------------------- 8.13 min Viper SRT-10 --------------------------------------------- 8.13 min Lotus Esprit Sport 350 ---------------------------------- 8.13 min Mercedes SLK55 Black Series ------------------------------------------8.14 min (R-tires) Mercedes SL 65 ------------------------------------------ 8.14 min Corvette C6 ---------------------------------------------- 8.15 min Z4 Alpina Roadster S------------------------------------- 8.15 min Z4 V8 Topster -------------------------------------------- 8.16 min Aston Martin DB9 ----------------------------------------- 8.16 min AC Schnitzer-BMW CLS II (E36) ------------------------- 8.16 min Aston Martin Vanquish ----------------------------------- 8.17 min Porsche 996 C2 ------------------------------------------ 8.17 min Maserati GranSport ------------------------------------- 8.18 min Ferrari F355----------------------------------------------- 8.18 min BMW Z8 --------------------------------------------------- 8.18 min Corvette C5 Com. Edition -------------------------------- 8.18 min Audi RS6 -------------------------------------------------- 8.20 min BMW M3 E46 ---------------------------------------------- 8.22 min Mercedes C55 --------------------------------------------- 8.22 min BMW Z3M Coupé ------------------------------------------ 8.22 min Porsche Boxster S ----------------------------------------- 8.23 min Porsche 996 C4 ------------------------------------------ 8.23 min Mercedes SLK 55 ------------------------------------------ 8.24 min Subaru Impreza WRX STi (265hp) ------------------------- 8.24 min Porsche Cayman S --------------------------------------- 8.25 min Jaguar XKR (415hp) --------------------------------------- 8.25 min Audi RS4 (old) --------------------------------------------- 8.25 min Mitsubishi EVO7 -------------------------------------------- 8.25 min BMW 335i --------------------------------------------- 8.26 min Nissan 350Z ------------------------------------------------ 8.26 min Mercedes SLK 32 ------------------------------------------- 8.26 min BMW M5 E39 ------------------------------------------------ 8.28 min Audi S4 Avant (new) ---------------------------------------- 8.29 min Maserati Coupé Cambiocorsa ------------------------------ 8.30 min BMW Z4 3.0 SMG (231hp) --------------------------------- 8.32 min BMW Z3M Roadster ---------------------------------------- 8.32 min Lotus Exige -------------------------------------------------- 8.32 min Porsche Boxster S (252 hp) -------------------------------- 8.32 min BMW Z4 3.0 Coupé ----------------------------------------- 8.32 min Opel Speedster --------------------------------------------- 8.34 min Brabus-Mercedes C V8 Sportcoupé ------------------------ 8.35 min Mercedes C32 ---------------------------------------------- 8.37 min Golf R32 ----------------------------------------------------- 8.37 min Subaru Impreza GT (218hp) ------------------------------- 8.37 min Maserati 3200 GT ------------------------------------------- 8.37 min Mercedes SL 500 -------------------------------------------- 8.38 min Brabus-Mercedes CLK 5.8 (1998) -------------------------- 8.38 min Morgan Aero 8 ----------------------------------------------- 8.39 min Honda S2000 ------------------------------------------------ 8.39 min Audi TT 2.0 TFSI --------------------------------------------- 8.40 min Audi S3 (1999) ---------------------------------------------- 8.41 min Audi S4 (old) ------------------------------------------------ 8.42 min Honda Civic Type-R ----------------------------------------- 8.47 min Renault Clio Sport V6 (226hp) ----------------------------- 8.49 min Audi TT 1.8T quattro ---------------------------------------- 8.49 min Jaguar XKR (1998) ------------------------------------------ 8.49 min Alfa 156 GTA ------------------------------------------------- 8.51 min Mercedes C43 AMG ------------------------------------------ 8.51 min Golf GTI DSG (200hp) --------------------------------------- 8.52 min Golf GTI 1.8T ------------------------------------------------ 8.54 min Mini Cooper S Works ---------------------------------------- 8.55 min Mercedes SLK 230 (2001) ----------------------------------- 9.07 min Last edited by Just_me; 11-23-2007 at 08:55 AM.

09-27-2005, 10:17 AM	#2
Alx Connoisseur Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: --Poconos, PA.-- 2005 Aston Martin DB9 Posts: 6,012 Thanks: 1,243 Thanked 662 Times in 316 Posts	Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes very impressive time, that Aston is wild to pull 8.03. Must be an unreal drive!!! That is officially super car times. I really underestimated their V8. Last edited by Alx; 09-27-2005 at 10:19 AM.

10-14-2005, 04:32 AM	#4
Just_me Executive Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 15,498 Thanks: 1,062 Thanked 3,722 Times in 1,583 Posts	Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes List updated: Golf GTI DSG 200hp, time 8.52 min

10-14-2005, 07:28 AM	#5
The Artist Expert Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Gothenburg Posts: 13,193 Thanks: 257 Thanked 1,235 Times in 678 Posts	Re: Officiell SportAuto Nordschleife laptimes Zonda F should be No1.. they will show us the time soon.. and if you just want sportauto times.. then just wait until they try it cause if they have talented drivers.. it should be on top.. PS They should test the Zonda F CS so that there could be a gap on top..hehe

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