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03-21-2006, 01:31 AM
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  | Officiall SportAuto Hockenheim laptimes I noticed there is a lot of talking about laptimes. Since Sportauto is a well-known source and well-resepected source around the world and the most fairness source we have, Im starting a list about Sportautos laptimes. Factory times wont be included in this thread. Sportauto always use the same driver, they always test the cars they way they leave the factory. They tell us a lot of details, such as airtemperature, asphalttemperature, roadconditions, tires and so on. Sportauto's notes regarding Hockenheim: Unlike the Nordschleife north loop where a clean driving on the ideal line is crucial for a fast laptime, here on Hockenheim a good laptime depend on how hard the driver dare to push the car to the limits. Extremely late braking and brutal out accelerating from the curves belong to the obligation program. The traction is thereby a very important factor. Since the average speed is relatively low handling is more important than engine performance. Also the efficiency and stability (Fading) of the brakes and transverse accelerations have large influence. *I will update this list every time a new car has been tested by SportAuto* *The latest car tested by SportAuto will be marked in green*  SportAuto, Hockenheim: Donkervoort D8 RS06 ------------------------------------- 1.04,8 min Porsche Carrera GT ------------------------------------- 1.08,6 min Mosler MT900 GT ------------------------------------- 1.09,2 min Manthey Porsche M700 ------------------------------- 1.09.2 min Koenigsegg CCR ---------------------------------- 1.09,8 min ( Swedish power ) Porsche 997 GT2 ---------------------------------- 1:10.0 min Porsche 997 TechArt GT street (630hp) ------------------------------ 1.09,9 min Jun-Mitsubishi EVO 5 (527hp) ------------------------- 1.10,7 min Pagani Zonda F ---------------------------------- 1:10.8 min Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera ---------------1:10.9 min Wendland Porsche 997 Turbo, 530 hp ------------------------ 1.11,0 min Porsche 997 GT3 RS ----------------------------------------- 1.11,1 min Corvette C6 Z06 ---------------------------------------------- 1.11,5 min Porsche Gemballa GT550 ------------------------------- 1.11,6 min Porsche GTR 600 Gemballa ---------------------------- 1.11,6 min Donkervoort D8 (210hp) ------------------------------ 1.11,6 min Porsche 911 GT2 (480hp) ------------------------------ 1.11,6 min Corvette C6 Z06 (tested a second time) ------------------------------ 1.11,7 min Porsche 997 GT3 ----------------------------------------- 1.11,7 min (R compound tires) Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 -------------------------- 1.11,8 min Pagani Zonda S ----------------------------------------- 1.11,8 min Porsche 996 GT3 RS ----------------------------------------- 1.11,8 min Lamborghini Gallardo ----------------------------------- 1.11,8 min Porsche 997 Turbo (R-tires)--------------------------- 1.11,9 min Ferrari 599 GTB -------------------------------------- 1.12,0 min Lamborghini Murciélago -------------------------------- 1.12,0 min Lamborghini Gallardo SE -------------------------------- 1.12.2 min Porsche 911 Techart GT (620hp) ---------------------- 1.12,3 min Lotec-Porsche 993 BiTurbo (1998) --------------------- 1.12.3 min Lamborghini Gallardo Sypder ----------------------------- 1.12,3 min Mercedes CLK-DTM ------------------------------------- 1.12,5 min (R compound tires) Porsche 911 GT2 (462hp) ------------------------------ 1.12,6 min Audi R8 -------------------------------------------------- 1.12,7 min (R compound tires) BMW M3 CSL/AC Schnitzer --------------------------------- 1.12,6 min Sportec-Porsche 996 Turbo (540 hp) ----------------------- 1.12,6 min Ferrari F430 ------------------------------------------- 1.12.7 min Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 722 Edition ----------------- 1.12,9 min Ferrari 360 CS ------------------------------------------- 1.13,0 min Porsche 911 GT3 (2003) ------------------------------- 1.13,2 min AC Schnitzer-BMW CLS II (E36) ------------------------- 1.13,4 min BMW M6 AC Scnitz. 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(552hp) ------------------------ 1.13,5 min BMW M3 CSL -------------------------------------------- 1.13,5 min (R compound tires) Mercedes SLR ------------------------------------------- 1.13,5 min Z4 V8 Topster -------------------------------------------- 1.13,7 min Porsche 997 Turbo ---------------------------------------- 1.13,7 min MB CLK63 Black Series ----------------------------------- 1.13,8 min (R compound tires) MTM Audi S4 Clubsport (500hp) --------------------- 1.13.9 min Donkervoort D8 180R ----------------------------------- 1.14,1 min Ford GT -------------------------------------------------- 1.14.1 min (only in 3rd gear due to broken gear box) Oettinger Audi TTRSR, 340 PS -------------------------------------------------- 1.14,3 min Porsche Carrera S (997) -------------------------------- 1.14,3 min BMW M3 V8 -------------------------------------- 1.14,3 min (R compound tires) Mercedes SLK55 Black Series -------------------------------- 1.14,4 min (R compound tires) Lamborghini Diablo GT --------------------------------- 1.14,4 min BMW M6 -------------------------------------------------- 1.14,4 min Z4 Alpina Roadster S------------------------------------- 1.14,4 min Honda NSX-R -------------------------------------------- 1.14,6 min Porsche 911 Turbo (420hp) ---------------------------- 1.14,6 min Ferrari 575M --------------------------------------------- 1.14,7 min Aston Martin V8 Vantage --------------------------------- 1.14,8 min (R-tires) Corvette C6 ---------------------------------------------- 1.14,8 min Lotus Exige S (221hp) ---------------------------------------- 1.14,8 min Porsche 911 GT3 (old) ---------------------------------- 1.14,9 min Viper SRT-10 --------------------------------------------- 1.14,9 min Mercedes CLK-DTM Cabriolet -------------------------------- 1.15,0 min Ferrari 360M --------------------------------------------- 1.15,1 min Lotus Esprit Sport 350 ---------------------------------- 1.15,3 min Ferrari F355----------------------------------------------- 1.15.3 min Mercedes SLK 55 AMG Black Series --------------------------- 1.15,4 min (R compound tires) Porsche Cayman S --------------------------------------- 1.15.5 min Mercedes SL 65 ------------------------------------------ 1.15.6 min Wendland-Porsche Cayman S (320hp) ------------------------- 1.15.8 min Techart-Porsche Cayman S (310hp) ------------------------- 1.15.8 min BMW Alpina B3 (E92) --------------------------------------------- 1.15,8 min Audi RS4 (V8) ---------------------------------------- 1.15.8 min (R compound tires) Porsche Cayman S --------------------------------- 1.15,9 min Viper GTS (1997) ---------------------------------------- 1.15.9 min Corvette C5 Com. Edition -------------------------------- 1.15,9 min Porsche 996 C2 ----------------------------------------- 1.15,9 min Ferrari 550M --------------------------------------------- 1.16,1 min Maserati GranSport ------------------------------------- 1.16.2 min Ferrari 612 Scaglietti ----------------------------------- 1.16,2 min Porsche Boxster S ---------------------------------------- 1.16.2 min BMW M3 E46 ---------------------------------------------- 1.16,3 min BMW M5 E60 (tested a second time)--------------------------------------------- 1.16,3 min Lamborghini Diablo SV ---------------------------------- 1.16.4 min Porsche 997 Carrera Conv. -------------------------------- 1.16,4 min BMW M6 Convertible ---------------------------------------- 1.16,5 min Lotus Exige -------------------------------------------------- 1.16,5 min BMW M5 E60 --------------------------------------------- 1.16,5 min Mercedes SL55 (facelift, 517hp) ----------------------------- 1.16,5 min Porsche 996 C4 ----------------------------------------- 1.16,6 min BMW Z4 M Roadster ----------------------------------- 1.16,7 min Audi S3 MTM, 330hp ---------------------------------- 1.16,7 min BMW 645i -------------------------------------------------- 1.16,8 min Mitsubishi Evo IX ----------------------------------------- 1.16.8 min Cayman S --------------------------------------------- 1.16,9 min Jaguar XKR (416hp) ----------------------------------------- 1.16,9 min Mercedes SLK 55 ------------------------------------------ 1.17,1 min Opel Speedster --------------------------------------------- 1.17,1 min BMW M3 Convertible------------------------------------------- 1.17,2 min Aston Martin Vanquish ----------------------------------- 1.17,2 min BMW Z4M Coupe --------------------------------------------- 1.17,2 min BMW Z3M Coupé ------------------------------------------ 1.17,2 min Audi RS4 Avant (V8) --------------------------------------------- 1.17,3 min BMW Z8 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Boxster S (252 hp) -------------------------------- 1.18,3 min Brabus-Mercedes CLK 5.8 (1998) -------------------------- 1.18,3 min Mercedes SL 55 ------------------------------------------ 1.18,4 min Mercedes CLK 63 ---------------------------------------- 1.18,4 min Mitsubishi EVO 6 -------------------------------------------- 1.18,4 min Maserati 3200 GT ------------------------------------------- 1.18,4 min Mercedes CL 65 ---------------------------------------------- 1.18,4 min Porsche Cayman 2.7 ---------------------------------------- 1.18.5 min Mercedes SLK 32 ------------------------------------------- 1.18,5 min Mercedes C55 --------------------------------------------- 1.18,6 min Renault Megane F1 R26 -------------------------------------------- 1.18,2 min Mercedes CLS 63 AMG ------------------------------------------------ 1.18,5 min Mercedes SLK 350 ----------------------------------- 1.18,7 min Audi S5 ------------------------------------------------ 1.18,8 min Nissan 350Z ------------------------------------------------ 1.18,8 min Audi S6 (435hp) --------------------------------------------- 1.18,8 min Renault Sport Trophy ------------------------------------------- 1.18,8 min Audi TT 2.0 TFSI --------------------------------------------- 1.18,9 min BMW 650 Cabriolet ------------------------------------------ 1.18,9 min Maserati Quattroporte Sport GT ---------------------------------------- 1.18,9 min Mercedes SLK 350 ----------------------------------------------- 1.18,9 min Morgan Aero 8 ----------------------------------------------- 1.18.9 min Honda S2000 ------------------------------------------------ 1.18,9 min Audi S4 Avant (V8) ---------------------------------------- 1.19,1 min Opel GT ------------------------------------------------- 1.19,1 min Maserati Coupé Cambiocorsa ------------------------------ 1.19,2 min BMW 130i ----------------------------------------------------- 1.19,2 min BMW 330xi (258hp) ---------------------------------------- 1.19,3 min BMW 335i Convert. --------------------------------------------- 1.19,4 min Subaru Impreza GT (218hp) ------------------------------- 1.19,4 min Mercedes C43 AMG ------------------------------------------ 1.19,5 min Mazda 3 MPS ------------------------------------------- 1.19,6 min Golf GTI (200hp) ----------------------------------------- 1.19,6 min Mercedes SL 500 -------------------------------------------- 1.19,7 min Audi TT 3.2 quattro (latest TT) ------------------------------- 1.19,8 min Brabus-Mercedes C V8 Sportcoupé ------------------------ 1.19,8 min Mazda 6 MPS --------------------------------------------------- 1.19,9 min Corvette C5 ---------------------------------------------------- 1.19,9 min Mazda RX8 ------------------------------------------------ 1.20,0 min Jaguar XK 4.2 ------------------------------------------ 1.20,0 min Opel Astra GTC (265 hp) ----------------------------- 1.20,0 min Ford Focus ST -------------------------------------------------- 1.20.1 min Renault Clio Sport V6 (226hp) ----------------------------- 1.20,2 min BMW 535d ------------------------------------------------------ 1.20,2 min Seat Leon Cupra R ------------------------------------------------- 1.20,3 min VW Polo GTI Edition ------------------------------------------ 1.20,3 min Golf R32 (250hp) --------------------------------------------- 1.20,3 min Audi A3 Sportback 3.2 quattro ---------------------------------- 1.21.0 min Mini Cooper S (175hp) --------------------------------------- 1.21,4 min Audi TT 1.8T quattro ---------------------------------------- 1.20,4 min Jaguar XKR (1998) ------------------------------------------ 1.20,4 min Opel Corsa OPC --------------------------------------------- 1.20,5 min Audi A3 3.2 Q DSG ------------------------------------------- 1.20,6 min Mercedes C32 ---------------------------------------------- 1.20,6 min Golf R32 ----------------------------------------------------- 1.20,7 min Skoda Octavia RS 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03-22-2006, 08:35 PM
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| Re: Officiell SportAuto Hockenheim laptimes Thanks Just Me!! Great Job! Wow these times are very interesting. Some interetsing things I'm noticing: The CGT is king of this track and the nurburgring apparently, Porsche really did that car well. The R32 is slower than the 130 which is different than Top Gear's results. The Gallardo SE is slower than the regular gallardo. The 645i's time is way up there with some amazing cars... The M3 CSL is just as fast as the SLR round the track! Despite being the most powerful road car in the world the CL65 lags in this test. The 535d time is faster than the XKR! lol. and its a diesel. Shame on Jaguar! |
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03-22-2006, 08:55 PM
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| Re: Officiell SportAuto Hockenheim laptimes I don't know whether I should laugh or be impressed with the Ford GTs laptime.  |
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03-22-2006, 08:58 PM
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| Re: Officiell SportAuto Hockenheim laptimes I'm impressed! It seems to me that the Carrera S is just a bit faster than the M6 on both this track and the Nurburgring....interesting though, they are very close... |
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03-22-2006, 08:59 PM
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| Re: Officiell SportAuto Hockenheim laptimes WOw and the Vette beats 99% of the competition enough said K thx |
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03-22-2006, 09:02 PM
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| Re: Officiell SportAuto Hockenheim laptimes Yea, that car is a beast! The best performance for the money. Probably the best performance car under 150k.......I kind of wish the Ford GT's gearbox wasnt broken to get a laptime comparable to the Z06? |
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03-24-2006, 10:31 PM
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| Re: Officiell SportAuto Hockenheim laptimes I wonder what the RS4 can pull, Ford GT and some 63 AMG cars and also Z4M What I noticed is that the Z06 time, there has a higher gap to its basic 400hp brother than it has to the Carrera. |
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03-24-2006, 11:17 PM
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| Re: Officiell SportAuto Hockenheim laptimes M5 E39 quicker than CLS55 ? Kinda doesnt make sence , BTW that CLS 55 timing matches the E55's timing from last year , some thing fishy about that .  |
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