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03-20-2007, 09:50 AM
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  |  The list: Torsional Rigidity I couldn't find such a list on the net, so I thought everyone could contribute here and make a list. List updating when a member find new numbers: Alfa 159 - 31.400Nm/degree Aston Martin DB9 Coupe 27,000 Nm/deg Aston Martin DB9 Convertible 15,500 Nm/deg Aston Martin Vanquish 28,500 Nm/deg Audi TT Coupe 19,000 Nm/deg Bugatti EB110 - 19,000 Nm/degree BMW E36 Touring 10,900 Nm/deg BMW E36 Z3 5,600 Nm/deg BMW E46 Sedan (w/o folding seats) 18,000 Nm/deg BMW E46 Sedan (w/folding seats) 13,000 Nm/deg BMW E46 Wagon (w/folding seats) 14,000 Nm/deg BMW E46 Coupe (w/folding seats) 12,500 Nm/deg BMW E46 Convertible 10,500 Nm/deg BMW X5 (2004) - 23,100 Nm/degree BMW E90: 22,500 Nm/deg BMW Z4 Coupe, 32,000Nm/degree BMW Z4 Roadster: 14,500 Nm/deg Bugatti Veyron - 60,000 Nm/degree Chrysler Crossfire 20,140 Nm/deg Chrysler Durango 6,800 Nm/deg Chevrolet Corvette C5 9,100 Nm/deg Dodge Viper Coupe 7,600 Nm/deg Ferrari 360 Spider 8,500 Nm/deg Ford GT: 27,100 Nm/deg Ford GT40 MkI 17,000 Nm/deg Ford Mustang 2003 16,000 Nm/deg Ford Mustang 2005 21,000 Nm/deg Ford Mustang Convertible (2003) 4,800 Nm/deg Ford Mustang Convertible (2005) 9,500 Nm/deg Jaguar X-Type Sedan 22,000 Nm/deg Jaguar X-Type Estate 16,319 Nm/deg Koenigsegg - 28.100 Nm/degree Lambo Murcielago 20,000 Nm/deg Lotus Elan 7,900 Nm/deg Lotus Elan GRP body 8,900 Nm/deg Lotus Elise 10,000 Nm/deg Lotus Elise 111s 11,000 Nm/deg Lotus Esprit SE Turbo 5,850 Nm/deg Maserati QP - 18.000 nm/degree McLaren F1 13,500 Nm/deg Mercedes SL - With top down 17,000 Nm/deg, with top up 21,000 Nm/deg Mini (2003) 24,500 Nm/deg Pagani Zonda C12 S 26,300 Nm/deg Pagani Zonda F - 27,000 Nm/degree Porsche 911 Turbo (2000) 13,500 Nm/deg Porsche 959 12,900 Nm/deg Porsche Carrera GT - 26,000Nm/degree Rolls-Royce Phantom - 40,500 Nm/degree Volvo S60 20,000 Nm/deg Audi A2: 11,900 Nm/deg Audi A8: 25,000 Nm/deg Audi TT: 10,000 Nm/deg (22Hz) Golf V GTI: 25,000 Nm/deg Chevrolet Cobalt: 28 Hz Ferrari 360: 1,474 kgm/degree (bending: 1,032 kg/mm) Ferrari 355: 1,024 kgm/degree (bending: 727 kg/mm) Ferrari 430: supposedly 20% higher than 360 Renault Sport Spider: 10,000 Nm/degree Volvo S80: 18,600 Nm/deg Koenigsegg CC-8: 28,100 Nm/deg Porsche 911 Turbo 996: 27,000 Nm/deg Porsche 911 Turbo 996 Convertible: 11,600 Nm/deg Porsche 911 Carrera Type 997: 33,000 Nm/deg Lotus Elise S2 Exige (2004): 10,500 Nm/deg Volkswagen Fox: 17,941 Nm/deg VW Phaeton - 37,000 Nm/degree VW Passat (2006) - 32,400 Nm/degree Ferrari F50: 34,600 Nm/deg Lambo Gallardo: 23000 Nm/deg Mazda Rx-8: 30,000 Nm/deg Mazda Rx-7: ~15,000 Nm/deg Mazda RX8 - 30,000 Nm/degree Saab 9-3 Sportcombi - 21,000 Nm/degree Opel Astra - 12,000 Nm/degree Land rover Freelander 2 - 28,000 Nm/degree Lamborghini Countach 2,600 Nm/deg Ford Focus 3d 19.600 Nm/deg Ford Focus 5d 17.900 Nm/deg Last edited by Just_me; 03-21-2007 at 11:32 AM. |
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03-20-2007, 11:57 AM
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| Re: Torsional Rigidity Good luck, James. Finding these numbers isn't easy  However  27,000 NM - Pagani Zonda F 25,000 Nm - Pagani Zonda C12 |
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03-20-2007, 12:01 PM
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| Re: Torsional Rigidity ^DAMN thats rigid..haha |
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03-21-2007, 02:50 AM
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| Re: Torsional Rigidity I have some more Pagani and Porsche numbers at home. Will post tomorrow. |
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03-21-2007, 03:18 AM
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| Re: Torsional Rigidity Koengisegg - 28.100 Nm/degree - source koengisegg webpage Rolls-royce phantom - 40,000 Nm/degree - source RR and I think we have a winner - Bugatti Veyron - 60,000 Nm/degree - ONLY REGISTERED AND ACTIVATED USERS CAN SEE ALL LINKS - CLICK HERE TO REGISTER Last edited by Just_me; 03-21-2007 at 03:49 AM. |
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03-21-2007, 03:57 AM
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| Re: Torsional Rigidity humm some interesting numbers here, I would expect cars like the Pagini Zonda and Koengisegg will have a higher torsional ridgidity, since they have carbon fiber monocoque. Wheels magazine (dec 2005 issue) said the Pagini Zonda has a torsional ridgidity of 25 000 Nm/deg as well. They also said the Bugatti Veyron has torsional ridgidity of 80 000 Nm/deg, which is just absolutely amazing |
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03-21-2007, 04:00 AM
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| Re: Torsional Rigidity ok Mirage, here is a list for you found on the web  Bugatti Veyron - 60,000 Nm/degree Aston Martin DB9 Coupe 27,000 Nm/deg Aston Martin DB9 Convertible 15,500 Nm/deg Audi TT Coupe 19,000 Nm/deg BMW E36 Touring 10,900 Nm/deg BMW E36 Z3 5,600 Nm/deg BMW E46 Sedan (w/o folding seats) 18,000 Nm/deg BMW E46 Sedan (w/folding seats) 13,000 Nm/deg BMW E46 Wagon (w/folding seats) 14,000 Nm/deg BMW E46 Coupe (w/folding seats) 12,500 Nm/deg BMW E46 Convertible 10,500 Nm/deg Chrysler Crossfire 20,140 Nm/deg Chrysler Durango 6,800 Nm/deg Dodge Viper Coupe 7,600 Nm/deg Ferrari 360 Spider 8,500 Nm/deg Ford GT40 MkI 17,000 Nm/deg Ford Mustang 2003 16,000 Nm/deg Ford Mustang 2005 21,000 Nm/deg Ford Mustang Convertible (2003) 4,800 Nm/deg Ford Mustang Convertible (2005) 9,500 Nm/deg Jaguar X-Type Sedan 22,000 Nm/deg Jaguar X-Type Estate 16,319 Nm/deg Lambo Murcielago 20,000 Nm/deg Lotus Elan 7,900 Nm/deg Lotus Elan GRP body 8,900 Nm/deg Lotus Elise 10,000 Nm/deg Lotus Elise 111s 11,000 Nm/deg Lotus Esprit SE Turbo 5,850 Nm/deg McLaren F1 13,500 Nm/deg Mini (2003) 24,500 Nm/deg Pagani Zonda C12 S 26,300 Nm/deg Porsche 911 Turbo (2000) 13,500 Nm/deg Porsche 959 12,900 Nm/deg Volvo S60 20,000 Nm/deg Rolls Royce Phantom: 40,000 Nm/deg BMW E90: 22,500 Nm/deg BMW Z4: 21Hz... :scratch: Now I just need to figure out how to convert that... Audi A2: 11900 Nm/deg Audi A8: 25,000 Nm/deg Audi TT: 10,000 Nm/deg (22Hz) Golf V GTI: 25,000 Nm/deg Chevrolet Cobalt: 28 Hz Ferrari 360: 1,474 kgm/degree (bending: 1,032 kg/mm) Ferrari 355: 1,024 kgm/degree (bending: 727 kg/mm) Ferrari 430: supposedly 20% higher than 360 Renault Sport Spider: 10,000 Nm/degree Volvo S80: 18,600 Nm/deg Koenigsegg CC-8: 28,100 Nm/deg Porsche 911 Turbo 996: 27,000 Nm/deg Porsche 911 Turbo 996 Convertible: 11,600 Nm/deg Lotus Elise S2 Exige (2004): 10,500 Nm/deg Volkswagen Fox: 17,941 Nm/deg BMW Z4 roadster: 16,000 Nm/deg Ferrari F50: 34,600 Nm/deg Lambo Gallardo: 23000 Nm/deg Ford GT: 27,100 Nm/deg Mazda Rx-8: 30,000 Nm/deg Mazda Rx-7: ~15,000 Nm/deg Last edited by Just_me; 03-21-2007 at 04:25 AM. |
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03-21-2007, 04:05 AM
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| Re: Torsional Rigidity and adding some more Porsche 911 Carrera Type 997: 33,000 Nm/deg Mercedes SL (MY 2006) 'the torsional rigidity of the car increases from 17,000Nm per degree with the top down to 21,000Nm per degree with the top up." BMW Z4 Coupe, the rigidity is 32,000Nm/degree: " the M Coupé platform also boasts a significant functional advantage in terms of chassis stiffness with an unprecedented torsional stiffness of 32,000 Nm per degree, setting a new record in its segment and contributing not only to optimal handling dynamics but an exceptional level of passive safety." Last edited by Just_me; 03-21-2007 at 04:23 AM. |
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03-21-2007, 04:24 AM
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| Re: Torsional Rigidity Karma for you, Just_me! I'm most astonished by the Phaeton's rigidity. It's one of the stiffest cars in that list! Here's the consolidated list... Aston Martin DB9 Coupe 27,000 Nm/deg Aston Martin DB9 Convertible 15,500 Nm/deg Audi TT Coupe 19,000 Nm/deg BMW E36 Touring 10,900 Nm/deg BMW E36 Z3 5,600 Nm/deg BMW E46 Sedan (w/o folding seats) 18,000 Nm/deg BMW E46 Sedan (w/folding seats) 13,000 Nm/deg BMW E46 Wagon (w/folding seats) 14,000 Nm/deg BMW E46 Coupe (w/folding seats) 12,500 Nm/deg BMW E46 Convertible 10,500 Nm/deg Bugatti Veyron - 60,000 Nm/degree Chrysler Crossfire 20,140 Nm/deg Chrysler Durango 6,800 Nm/deg Dodge Viper Coupe 7,600 Nm/deg Ferrari 360 Spider 8,500 Nm/deg Ford GT40 MkI 17,000 Nm/deg Ford Mustang 2003 16,000 Nm/deg Ford Mustang 2005 21,000 Nm/deg Ford Mustang Convertible (2003) 4,800 Nm/deg Ford Mustang Convertible (2005) 9,500 Nm/deg Jaguar X-Type Sedan 22,000 Nm/deg Jaguar X-Type Estate 16,319 Nm/deg Koenigsegg - 28.100 Nm/degree Lambo Murcielago 20,000 Nm/deg Lotus Elan 7,900 Nm/deg Lotus Elan GRP body 8,900 Nm/deg Lotus Elise 10,000 Nm/deg Lotus Elise 111s 11,000 Nm/deg Lotus Esprit SE Turbo 5,850 Nm/deg McLaren F1 13,500 Nm/deg Mini (2003) 24,500 Nm/deg Pagani Zonda C12 S 26,300 Nm/deg Pagani Zonda F - 27,000 Nm/degree Porsche 911 Turbo (2000) 13,500 Nm/deg Porsche 959 12,900 Nm/deg Rolls-royce Phantom - 40,000 Nm/degree Volvo S60 20,000 Nm/deg BMW E90: 22,500 Nm/deg BMW Z4: 21Hz... :scratch: Now I just need to figure out how to convert that... BMW M Coupe, 32,000Nm/degree Audi A2: 11,900 Nm/deg Audi A8: 25,000 Nm/deg Audi TT: 10,000 Nm/deg (22Hz) Golf V GTI: 25,000 Nm/deg Chevrolet Cobalt: 28 Hz Ferrari 360: 1,474 kgm/degree (bending: 1,032 kg/mm) Ferrari 355: 1,024 kgm/degree (bending: 727 kg/mm) Ferrari 430: supposedly 20% higher than 360 Renault Sport Spider: 10,000 Nm/degree Volvo S80: 18,600 Nm/deg Koenigsegg CC-8: 28,100 Nm/deg Porsche 911 Turbo 996: 27,000 Nm/deg Porsche 911 Turbo 996 Convertible: 11,600 Nm/deg Porsche 911 Carrera Type 997: 33,000 Nm/deg Lotus Elise S2 Exige (2004): 10,500 Nm/deg Volkswagen Fox: 17,941 Nm/deg VW Phaeton - 37,000 Nm/degree BMW Z4: 14,500 Nm/deg Ferrari F50: 34,600 Nm/deg Lambo Gallardo: 23000 Nm/deg Ford GT: 27,100 Nm/deg Mazda Rx-8: 30,000 Nm/deg Mazda Rx-7: ~15,000 Nm/deg |
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03-21-2007, 04:27 AM
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| Re: Torsional Rigidity Maserati QP - 18.000 nm/degree Alfa 159 - 31.400Nm/degree |
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