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Old 03-14-2007, 08:38 AM   #1
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Direct injection, turbos & ethanol could triple power

Researchers at MIT have come up with a new engine design that improves the fuel efficiency and output of today’s powerplants but at a fraction of the cost of an equally efficient hybrid drivetrain. Scientist Daniel Cohn gives the example of a simple 2.4L four-cylinder mill, a motor that “would be a rocket with our technology.” The key is to add a turbocharger, use direct fuel injection rather than regular port injection and then supply a small amount of ethanol to the mix. A process the researchers believe could potentially triple the output of their test engine.

A reliable engine using this technologies would allow manufacturers to power large sedans and SUVs using small and efficient motors and at the same time rival the efficiency of more expensive hybrid systems. The biggest hurdle the designers had to overcome was in preventing ‘knock,’ a situation where too much pressure in the cylinder causes the fuel-air mixture to ignite independently of the spark and damage the engine.

The key was to reduce the boost pressure of the turbos but also to create a special fuel mixture that contains mostly gasoline but with a small amount of ethanol, which is better at preventing knock. According to their results, a vehicle using a set-up like this could operate around 25% more efficiently than a vehicle with a conventional engine. And since it’s based on current technology, it could be in production very quickly and should only cost an extra $1,000 to $1,500 more than a conventional powerplant. Volkswagen AG has been one of the pioneers in this field, already releasing its TFSI range that combines turbocharging with direct injection technology.

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Re: Direct injection, turbos & ethanol could triple power

So does BMW with N54 engine: bi-turbo + HPI direct injection.

But ...

EU supported HyICE project (Hydrogen Internal Combustion Engine) where BMW also participate very actively also has some very promising results. Such engines are already able to produce output of 100kW / liter (136HP per liter of engine displacement).

But this is more a distant than a near future ...
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Re: Direct injection, turbos & ethanol could triple power

Thanks Just_me for sharing this.
This is not a relatively new concept- it has been around for quite a while. The difference is applying the direct injection technology with an anti-knock combustible fuel, or would I say a fuel that supports higher compression.
Nevertheless, it is a step in the right direction.

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Re: Direct injection, turbos & ethanol could triple power

Looks like the MIT boys cought up to what the Germans have been developping for a few years now.

DUH seems appropriate.
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