Top Gear-First Drive Subaru Impreza WRX STi

monster · 11-07-2007, 08:05 AM

Breif review, the car sounds promising enough.

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Alright, time to go on the record and say that I almost like the looks of this new Impreza STi.

I said 'almost'. And part of the reason I almost like the look of it is because I've driven it.

Even ten minutes behind the wheel of this car will have you feeling that the looks don't matter too much - it's got wider, flared arches than the standard car, so it's probably better as a result. Put it this way: the fuel filler cap is convex rather than concave.

Besides, we're all used to ugly Subaru Imprezas, ever since the goggle-eyed squinter that was the second generation car shocked the hell out of us six years ago.

Subaru has been trounced in the WRC recently, partly because the saloon-shape current car has too much front and rear overhang. Note that the winning Citroens and Fords are all compact hatches. Subaru has.

The new five-door hatch has a longer wheelbase than the outgoing saloon - important for rallying - and is also shorter overall. So it has more of a wheel-at-each corner stance. That helps the road car, too. You can feel that it holds its line slightly better than before, and turns in a little bit more positively.

The engine I sampled in Japan was the Japanese-spec 2.0-litre, which develops 304bhp and 311lb ft of torque, driving through a six-speed manual gearbox with a shorter throw than before. It's a great gearchange, meaty and positive, and the engine is even better.

It sounds both quieter and more, er, 'zimmy', for lack of a better word, than the growly, deep-voiced STis I remember. It's not unpleasant, and a good deal of the change is down to better engine isolation and more sound deadening, but it takes you aback slightly at first. It's still undoubtedly a Scoob boxer in its voice, but less so. We're told the 2.5 we get - which makes about the same power and torque - will sound gruntier.

It revs cleanly and quickly to 8000rpm and it goes very, very hard, like every STi should. We took it round the track at Fuji Speedway, which gave us plenty of chance to sample the new tech, all of which add great chunks of desirability to the new machine.

Tech part one: the centre diff. Using switches on the centre console you can set it to auto, auto plus, auto minus and manual. Auto is the standard setting, with 59 per cent of drive sent rearward and the diff set neutrally. Auto plus tightens the diff for more traction in slippery conditions. Auto minus loosens the rear diff for when you're facing a challenging, twisty road with plenty of grip and want more turn-in and a smidge more adjustability at the back.

Then there's manual: you can adjust the percentage of rear bias to suit your mood, over six steps, the most extreme throwing 70 per cent of drive to the rear. Cool.

The other big news is called SI-Drive. This alters the engine and throttle mapping to three settings. 'I' is basically 'City' mode.

What it does is loosen-off the throttle pedal sensitivity for town driving - it also alters the way the boost comes in, bringing it to full torque more gently. This is a superb feature, which makes a mewling baby out of the car for normal commuting, where the old car was a bit of an animal.

Two other settings, Sport and Sport Sharp, give you more throttle response and more immediate boost, with 'Sharp' the setting of choice for track work.

Get the picture? The car's a proper technical tour de force. But the tech stuff actually works. It's a better STi than before, and that makes it one of the world's great performance cars, end of story.

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Mr. M · 11-07-2007, 07:52 PM

I'm beginning to appreciate the new Impreza. It doesn't look that bad and hell, it may even pass off as a minor Q-car compared to the Evo.

monster · 11-07-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. M

I'm beginning to appreciate the new Impreza. It doesn't look that bad and hell, it may even pass off as a minor Q-car compared to the Evo.

The new Impreza, in RS and WRX form doesn't look too bad, I saw a silver one last night, and a few of my friends thought it was something european.

I like the exterior design of the STi version, it looks purposeful without the over styled aggressiveness of the old car. The proportions are also better thanks to the reduced overhangs.

Mr. M · 11-07-2007, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by monster

The new Impreza, in RS and WRX form doesn't look too bad, I saw a silver one last night, and a few of my friends thought it was something european.

I like the exterior design of the STi version, it looks purposeful without the over styled aggressiveness of the old car. The proportions are also better thanks to the reduced overhangs.

Yes, the quads, huge wheel arches and all are very impressive.

monster · 11-07-2007, 08:38 PM

I saw the EVO X in person at the motor show, and I think the styling is too nose heavy, the STi has a more balanced look, if only the bother to change the very aftermarket looking tail lights.

martinbo · 11-08-2007, 05:48 AM

I'd just wish that FHI gave the rest of the free-thinking world the option of "European-coloured tail lights".

I'm growing more and more unfond of the horrid clear lens items. Ugh. Put some bloody red in them for mercy's sake man! Cheapens the car in my opinion. And, when you're taking on the best selling European hatches that have brand cachet and quality oozing in bucketloads you can't afford to cheapen the perceived image your new entrant in any way.

Otherwise, new STi is a grand effort. Pity we don't get this amazing 2.0 litre outside of Japan.

Mr. M · 11-08-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by martinbo

I'd just wish that FHI gave the rest of the free-thinking world the option of "European-coloured tail lights".

I'm growing more and more unfond of the horrid clear lens items. Ugh. Put some bloody red in them for mercy's sake man! Cheapens the car in my opinion. And, when you're taking on the best selling European hatches that have brand cachet and quality oozing in bucketloads you can't afford to cheapen the perceived image your new entrant in any way.

Otherwise, new STi is a grand effort. Pity we don't get this amazing 2.0 litre outside of Japan.

Just curious Martin, what's so good in the 2.0L that the 2.5L doesn't have?

martinbo · 11-08-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. M

Just curious Martin, what's so good in the 2.0L that the 2.5L doesn't have?

It's in the quality of the engineering...

The 2.0 engine has - in particular: forged conrods and pistons, hollow inlet valves, sodium filled exhaust valves and a twin-scroll turbo. So the engine has lower reciprocating masses, a higher tolerance for rpm and temperature and it boosts quicker.

The 2.5 litre engine is just a uprated version (with different, single arc-scroll turbocharger and intercooler) of the ubiquitous 2.5 turbo that does the business in regular WRX's, Legacy GT's and Forester XT's. It's a good engine, make no mistake, but the 2.0 STi mill is a work of art. And it's strong (read robust) like mother Russia.

speed_kills · 11-08-2007, 02:03 PM

OMG!!"It revs cleanly and quickly to 8000rpm and it goes very, very hard, like every STi should." a turbo engine revving to 8000? never seen before...bmw has no excuse to make a twin turbo 8250rpm V10

Just_me · 11-08-2007, 03:01 PM

It revs cleanly and quickly to 8000rpm

awesome, then BMW can give us a M5 with Turbo and redline 8250 rpm

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monster Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,084 Thanks: 808 Thanked 928 Times in 486 Posts	Re: Top Gear-First Drive Subaru Impreza WRX STi I saw the EVO X in person at the motor show, and I think the styling is too nose heavy, the STi has a more balanced look, if only the bother to change the very aftermarket looking tail lights.

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martinbo Fanatic Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Johannesburg Posts: 1,701 Thanks: 324 Thanked 531 Times in 269 Posts	Re: Top Gear-First Drive Subaru Impreza WRX STi I'd just wish that FHI gave the rest of the free-thinking world the option of "European-coloured tail lights". I'm growing more and more unfond of the horrid clear lens items. Ugh. Put some bloody red in them for mercy's sake man! Cheapens the car in my opinion. And, when you're taking on the best selling European hatches that have brand cachet and quality oozing in bucketloads you can't afford to cheapen the perceived image your new entrant in any way. Otherwise, new STi is a grand effort. Pity we don't get this amazing 2.0 litre outside of Japan.

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speed_kills Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 26 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Top Gear-First Drive Subaru Impreza WRX STi OMG!!"It revs cleanly and quickly to 8000rpm and it goes very, very hard, like every STi should." a turbo engine revving to 8000? never seen before...bmw has no excuse to make a twin turbo 8250rpm V10

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Just_me Executive Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 15,487 Thanks: 1,062 Thanked 3,722 Times in 1,583 Posts	Re: Top Gear-First Drive Subaru Impreza WRX STi It revs cleanly and quickly to 8000rpm awesome, then BMW can give us a M5 with Turbo and redline 8250 rpm

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