New US C02 ruling a threat to performance makes

Just_me · 04-18-2007, 11:23 AM

Earlier this month, the US supreme court ruled that carbon-dioxide emissions are to be defined as pollutants, a decision that could force carmakers to seriously reduce the levels of CO2 being emitted by vehicles sold in the US. The decision reflects a more drastic situation in Europe, where the government is planning to impose a rule to limit all carmaker’s average fleet C02 levels to just 130g/100km.

If any changes do come in, performance makes such as Lamborghini and Porsche will be hit hardest. Lamborghini has the honor of producing the world’s worst C02 offender with its Murciélago supercar. Although it’s unknown how the US Supreme court’s ruling will be interpreted by the US Environmental Protection Agency, it’s highly probable that there’ll be new regulations limiting the allowable levels of CO2 emissions from motor vehicles.

Previously, C02 was deemed as harmless, which meant car manufacturers never focused on reducing its levels as they have done with other smog-forming pollutants. If the allowable level of C02 is reduced, carmakers will be forced to reduce the amount of fuel consumed at the expense of performance.

EnI · 04-18-2007, 11:34 AM

Thanks a lot for the news ...

But Andreas, could you state the source of the news you're posting. Pleeeeease! Otherwise the news looks like your personal opinion.

I'm aware it's a copy/paste frome some site, but please state the site.

Just_me · 04-18-2007, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnI

But Andreas, could you state the source of the news you're posting. Pleeeeease! Otherwise the news looks like your personal opinion.

if I had a source you would see one. its a carblog site but they didnt have a source

EnI · 04-18-2007, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just_me

if I had a source you would see one. its a carblog site but they didnt have a source

So, your source is CarBlog. Right?

bmer · 04-18-2007, 12:17 PM

The EU's goal to reach an average CO2 emission of 120 g/km for all new passenger cars by 2012 is propably not going to happen. Currently only the smallest microcars and some hybrids can achieve such low emission levels. Fiat (153 g/km), Peugeot (152 g/km) and Renault (153 g/km) are closest to the goal. Volkswagen's emission index is at 172 g/km but Mercedes has a long way ahead trying to reach the target level with their CO2 emission currently at 252 g/km. Porsche is on the top of the German manufacturers with 321 g/km. I guess this means that we will see a lot of diesel-hybrids in the future at least from the Germans.

bmwrules · 04-18-2007, 06:54 PM

Here's a CNN report from April 3rd that talks about the Supreme Court ruling.

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Here's the automaker's reaction

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Merc1 · 04-19-2007, 12:19 AM

Here is a good article from Autoweek:

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04-18-2007, 11:23 AM	#1
Just_me Executive Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 15,498 Thanks: 1,062 Thanked 3,722 Times in 1,583 Posts	New US C02 ruling a threat to performance makes Earlier this month, the US supreme court ruled that carbon-dioxide emissions are to be defined as pollutants, a decision that could force carmakers to seriously reduce the levels of CO2 being emitted by vehicles sold in the US. The decision reflects a more drastic situation in Europe, where the government is planning to impose a rule to limit all carmaker’s average fleet C02 levels to just 130g/100km. If any changes do come in, performance makes such as Lamborghini and Porsche will be hit hardest. Lamborghini has the honor of producing the world’s worst C02 offender with its Murciélago supercar. Although it’s unknown how the US Supreme court’s ruling will be interpreted by the US Environmental Protection Agency, it’s highly probable that there’ll be new regulations limiting the allowable levels of CO2 emissions from motor vehicles. Previously, C02 was deemed as harmless, which meant car manufacturers never focused on reducing its levels as they have done with other smog-forming pollutants. If the allowable level of C02 is reduced, carmakers will be forced to reduce the amount of fuel consumed at the expense of performance.

04-18-2007, 11:34 AM	#2
EnI Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,911 Thanks: 124 Thanked 1,737 Times in 840 Posts	Re: New US C02 ruling a threat to performance makes Thanks a lot for the news ... But Andreas, could you state the source of the news you're posting. Pleeeeease! Otherwise the news looks like your personal opinion. I'm aware it's a copy/paste frome some site, but please state the site.

04-18-2007, 12:17 PM	#5
bmer Devotee Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,910 Thanks: 1,528 Thanked 668 Times in 404 Posts	Re: New US C02 ruling a threat to performance makes The EU's goal to reach an average CO2 emission of 120 g/km for all new passenger cars by 2012 is propably not going to happen. Currently only the smallest microcars and some hybrids can achieve such low emission levels. Fiat (153 g/km), Peugeot (152 g/km) and Renault (153 g/km) are closest to the goal. Volkswagen's emission index is at 172 g/km but Mercedes has a long way ahead trying to reach the target level with their CO2 emission currently at 252 g/km. Porsche is on the top of the German manufacturers with 321 g/km. I guess this means that we will see a lot of diesel-hybrids in the future at least from the Germans.

04-18-2007, 06:54 PM	#6
bmwrules Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: High Point, NC, USA Posts: 426 Thanks: 67 Thanked 141 Times in 53 Posts	Re: New US C02 ruling a threat to performance makes Here's a CNN report from April 3rd that talks about the Supreme Court ruling. - ONLY REGISTERED AND ACTIVATED USERS CAN SEE ALL LINKS - CLICK HERE TO REGISTER Here's the automaker's reaction - ONLY REGISTERED AND ACTIVATED USERS CAN SEE ALL LINKS - CLICK HERE TO REGISTER

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Merc1 Contributor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Aurora IL USA Posts: 7,313 Thanks: 1,561 Thanked 2,270 Times in 1,044 Posts	Re: New US C02 ruling a threat to performance makes Here is a good article from Autoweek: - ONLY REGISTERED AND ACTIVATED USERS CAN SEE ALL LINKS - CLICK HERE TO REGISTER M

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