MB Classic: 280E (W114) vs E500 Limited (W124) vs E63 AMG (W211)

cawimmer430 · 12-02-2006, 12:22 PM

I subscribe to Mercedes-Benz CLASSIC, an inhouse printed magazine from DCX and they usually have some awesome reports about older Mercedes cars, trucks, buses and sometimes modern cars. This is an article I scanned from an older issue where they compared the W114 280E to the W124 E500 and the W221 E63 AMG.

Each car tested was or is the top model in their respective lineup. The 280E topped the W114/W115 E-Class range in the 1960s until 1975. The well-known E500 was the range-topping W124 E-Class and is a collectors item already. And we all know that the E63 AMG is the most powerful MB-produced E-Class. Together, these range topper produce 1,019-horsepower.

280E, E500 and E63
The 280E belongs to Thomas Meyer, a history professor from Karlsruhe. The 185-horsepower 280E was the most expensive and most powerful midsize Mercedes in the mid 1960s. Meyer's 280E is a 1972 model with a 4-speed manual transmission. Back in its day, the 280E was easily regarded as the perfect "understatement" car. Classy and elegant flowing lines coupled to the traditional conservative ideology of the firm characterized the W114. All W114/W115's look the same visually, hence, it is easy to confuse a run-of-the-mill 200D with the 280E: base model vs top model. Auto Motor und Sport in 1972 wrote about the W114/W115, "If you badly want prestige, then this is the best car money can buy."

I enter the spacious cockpit of the 280E and immediately find myself at home. The classical instruments are typical Mercedes from the era, yet easy to read and understand. The cloth seats are soft and comfy. The 6-cylinder engine, with its Bosch D-Jetronic fuel injection, runs smoothly, albeit a bit loud. I enjoy the eager nature of the 185-horses and their 9.8 second sprint to 100 km/h. Back in 1972, Auto Motor und Sport ranked the 280E as one of the fastest and sportiest cars on German roads beating sports cars such as the Mercedes 280SL "Pagoda", which took 11 seconds to reach 100 km/h.

Thomas Meyer bought his 280E second hand with 164,000 km on the clock. The previous owner had ordered the car with a few useful options. Only when it came to the transmission did he save money. A shame. At high speed, the 4-speed 280E is very loud and the engine rev's over the 6,000 redline. A 5th gear with longer ratios would have been useful. Inbetween 4,000 and 6,000 RPM, the 280E feels the liveliest.

The 280E handles decently, but the traction qualities of the small 185 sized tires reach their limit early preventing sporty driving. Often in curves, the driver will need to "steer" the car with braking and acceleration input. In short, the 280E is a wonderful cruiser, but nothing for the sporty-minded driver. The seats generally offer good side support, except when the car is driven in a sporty fashion.

And this is where the fun begins: the E500. Capable of being driven sporty on both Bundestrassen and the Autobahn, the E500 rocks to 100 km/h in 6.1 seconds and never seems to want to stop. The first curve with the 280E was something to get used to: not here, the E500 handles confidently and the car seems to be glued to the road. Should you speed up to fast, don't sweat it, the brakes are excellent and stop the car quickly to controllable speeds. At speeds in curves where the 280E was at its limit, the E500 is still capable of being driven through with ease and even higher speeds. The V8 engine of this car is a joy. With 470 Nm of torque on tap (almost double that of the 280E), the E500 is a rocket. Midrange acceleration is quick and energetic and we never felt the engine run out of steam.

In handling, there are tremendous differences between the 280E and E500. Mercedes joined forces with Porsche to create the car. Porsche's primary duty was to fine-tune the suspension - and they did a terrific job at it. The steering is uncannily precise for a W124 E-Class and the handling is a phenomenal mix between sports sedan and luxury car. On the Autobahn especially, the E500 is a joy to drive. The stability and power of the car never cease to amaze. In 3rd gear on the Autobahn, the E500 can be driven to 170 km/h, Shift up into 4th and you quickly reach 250 km/h all the while being pushed back into the plush leather seats.

The 1994 500E seen here is owned by Alexander Klein, an automotive marketing expert working and living in Stuttgart. This particular E500 was part of the 500 unit "Limited Edition" series and was only available in Sapphire Black and Brilliantsilver. Being a limited edition model, this E500 was filled with a lot of standard equipment. Nevertheless, there were still many cost-options available to those for whom money was no object. Take for example the EVO II 8 1/4 x 17 rims, which the first owner had ordered before Alexander Klein bought the car with 71,000 km on the clock. Klein, however, only drives the car on special occassions. Since purchasing his E500 in 2003, he has only added 10,000 km to the car.

Impressed with the E500, I enter the E63 AMG: the newest and most powerful E-Class from the house of Mercedes-Benz. The moment I enter the smooth cabin, I feel as if I am in a spaceship. The W211 interior has more buttons than the W114 and W124 I just drove. No wonder that the instruction manual has grown to 406 pages (compared to 68 pages for the 280E and 140 pages for the E500). I don't let this bother me and seat myself into the soft Nappa-Alacantara leather combo seats and turn on the engine via start-button. The light alloy V8 awakes with a ferocious growl. 6208cc, 514-horsepower @ 6,800 RPM make it the most powerful naturally aspirated V8 on the planet. I engage the 7-speed automatic into D and let her rip. The AMG delivers a lot of punch at any RPM, and the engine response is beautiful too. At 2,000 RPM, the engine already deliver 500 Nm of torque. At 7,200 RPM, the fun stops as the engine speed is limited here.

In the 280E I drove towards the first curve, in the E500 I flew towards the first curve: in the E63 AMG, the curve jumped in my face at lightning speed. Yes ladies and gentleman, that's how fast this car is. The brakes are excellent and powerful. Overtaking is not an issue with the car, it's got the power. Before the driver can even finish his thoughts about overtaking the slower car, it's already happened.

The handling is superb - and best of all, the driving comfort doesn't suffer at all. Comfortable? Check. Sporty? Oh yeah. Amazing considering that the suspension of the E63 AMG is softer than that of the E500 Limited, and yet it outhandles that car too.

Compared to the E280 and E500, the E63 AMG seems to come from another planet - no, not planet, galaxy. Maximum power, driving pleasure and handling packaged into an everyday car. And yet, it is just the most recent creation of what began in the 1960s as the 280E...

280E Technical Data
Engine: 2746cc inline-6
Power: 185-horsepower @ 6,000 RPM
Torque: 238 Nm @ 4,500 RPM
Transmission: 4-speed manual (optional 5-speed manual or 4-speed automatic)
0-100 km/h: 9.8 seconds
Top Speed: 200 km/h
Fuel Economy: 16 L / 100 km
Units Produced: 22,836

E500 Technical Data
Engine: 4973cc V8
Power: 320-horsepower @ 5,600 RPM
Torque: 470 Nm @ 3,900 RPM
Transmission: 4-speed automatic
0-100 km/h: 6.1 seconds
Top Speed: 250 km/h (limited)
Fuel Economy: 16.9 L / 100 km
Units Produced: 500

E63 AMG Technical Data
Engine: 6208cc V8
Power: 514-horsepower @ 6,800 RPM
Torque: 630 Nm @ 5,200 RPM
Transmission: 7-speed automatic
0-100 km/h: 4.5 seconds
Top Speed: 250 km/h (limited)
Fuel Economy: 14.3 L / 100 km
Units Produced: currently in production

Ok, I am tired and exhausted after scannning and translating the good stuff.

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Bruce · 12-02-2006, 12:27 PM

Fantastic stuff Christian, right now i've got to go out, so i'll be sure to read it all later

NevadaJack · 12-02-2006, 01:22 PM

My first MB was a 1977 280E Sedan, a W123 I think. I was a total novice about MB and bought it after my '77 Cad Seville was stolen and the quality on the replacement was so bad I refused delivery and stopped at a MB dealer on the way home.

The salesman took me for a test drive in a 450SE or somthing like that and it was a big hulk and not what I wanted...my wife was giving me sneers. He said they had a smaller car called the 280E and once I drove that I was sold and so was my wife. It was that "muddy mustard brown" with a Saddle interior. Took delivery the next day and never looked back. Followed it with a '79 SL and I was on my way to a life of MB...:-)

Thanks for posting even though it is the earlier W113/114...brought back some nice memories.

cawimmer430 · 12-02-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 7.3 AMG

Fantastic stuff Christian, right now i've got to go out, so i'll be sure to read it all later

No problem.

cawimmer430 · 12-02-2006, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NevadaJack

My first MB was a 1977 280E Sedan, a W123 I think. I was a total novice about MB and bought it after my '77 Cad Seville was stolen and the quality on the replacement was so bad I refused delivery and stopped at a MB dealer on the way home.

The salesman took me for a test drive in a 450SE or somthing like that and it was a big hulk and not what I wanted...my wife was giving me sneers. He said they had a smaller car called the 280E and once I drove that I was sold and so was my wife. It was that "muddy mustard brown" with a Saddle interior. Took delivery the next day and never looked back. Followed it with a '79 SL and I was on my way to a life of MB...:-)

Thanks for posting even though it is the earlier W113/114...brought back some nice memories.

Wonderful story, Jack.

The W123 is my all-time favorite Benz. I'm writing a review on it right now and I am on page 40.

Bruce · 12-02-2006, 07:50 PM

Just finished reading it all:

"In handling, there are tremendous differences between the 280E and E500. Mercedes joined forces with Porsche to create the car. Porsche's primary duty was to fine-tune the suspension - and they did a terrific job at it."

Had no clue about that, very interesting information.

Mean while i'm surprised to see just 500 E500 Limited Editions made it out of the factory, would you happen to know how many standard W124 E500's Mercedes made?

cawimmer430 · 12-03-2006, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7.3 AMG

Mean while i'm surprised to see just 500 E500 Limited Editions made it out of the factory, would you happen to know how many standard W124 E500's Mercedes made?

10,479

Bruce · 12-03-2006, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cawimmer430

10,479

Wow, that's a very specific number, thanks Wimmer

Giannis · 12-03-2006, 12:04 PM

nice article Christian!

one question: how can anyone subscribe to this magazine if it is availiable in english ???

cawimmer430 · 12-03-2006, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7.3 AMG

Wow, that's a very specific number, thanks Wimmer

I got it from Wikipedia, but I also checked with - ONLY REGISTERED AND ACTIVATED USERS CAN SEE ALL LINKS - CLICK HERE TO REGISTER.

12-02-2006, 12:22 PM	#1
cawimmer430 Trendsetter Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Mühldorf am Inn, Germany Posts: 8,028 Thanks: 3,975 Thanked 3,189 Times in 1,366 Posts	MB Classic: 280E (W114) vs E500 Limited (W124) vs E63 AMG (W211) I subscribe to Mercedes-Benz CLASSIC, an inhouse printed magazine from DCX and they usually have some awesome reports about older Mercedes cars, trucks, buses and sometimes modern cars. This is an article I scanned from an older issue where they compared the W114 280E to the W124 E500 and the W221 E63 AMG. Each car tested was or is the top model in their respective lineup. The 280E topped the W114/W115 E-Class range in the 1960s until 1975. The well-known E500 was the range-topping W124 E-Class and is a collectors item already. And we all know that the E63 AMG is the most powerful MB-produced E-Class. Together, these range topper produce 1,019-horsepower. 280E, E500 and E63 The 280E belongs to Thomas Meyer, a history professor from Karlsruhe. The 185-horsepower 280E was the most expensive and most powerful midsize Mercedes in the mid 1960s. Meyer's 280E is a 1972 model with a 4-speed manual transmission. Back in its day, the 280E was easily regarded as the perfect "understatement" car. Classy and elegant flowing lines coupled to the traditional conservative ideology of the firm characterized the W114. All W114/W115's look the same visually, hence, it is easy to confuse a run-of-the-mill 200D with the 280E: base model vs top model. Auto Motor und Sport in 1972 wrote about the W114/W115, "If you badly want prestige, then this is the best car money can buy." I enter the spacious cockpit of the 280E and immediately find myself at home. The classical instruments are typical Mercedes from the era, yet easy to read and understand. The cloth seats are soft and comfy. The 6-cylinder engine, with its Bosch D-Jetronic fuel injection, runs smoothly, albeit a bit loud. I enjoy the eager nature of the 185-horses and their 9.8 second sprint to 100 km/h. Back in 1972, Auto Motor und Sport ranked the 280E as one of the fastest and sportiest cars on German roads beating sports cars such as the Mercedes 280SL "Pagoda", which took 11 seconds to reach 100 km/h. Thomas Meyer bought his 280E second hand with 164,000 km on the clock. The previous owner had ordered the car with a few useful options. Only when it came to the transmission did he save money. A shame. At high speed, the 4-speed 280E is very loud and the engine rev's over the 6,000 redline. A 5th gear with longer ratios would have been useful. Inbetween 4,000 and 6,000 RPM, the 280E feels the liveliest. The 280E handles decently, but the traction qualities of the small 185 sized tires reach their limit early preventing sporty driving. Often in curves, the driver will need to "steer" the car with braking and acceleration input. In short, the 280E is a wonderful cruiser, but nothing for the sporty-minded driver. The seats generally offer good side support, except when the car is driven in a sporty fashion. And this is where the fun begins: the E500. Capable of being driven sporty on both Bundestrassen and the Autobahn, the E500 rocks to 100 km/h in 6.1 seconds and never seems to want to stop. The first curve with the 280E was something to get used to: not here, the E500 handles confidently and the car seems to be glued to the road. Should you speed up to fast, don't sweat it, the brakes are excellent and stop the car quickly to controllable speeds. At speeds in curves where the 280E was at its limit, the E500 is still capable of being driven through with ease and even higher speeds. The V8 engine of this car is a joy. With 470 Nm of torque on tap (almost double that of the 280E), the E500 is a rocket. Midrange acceleration is quick and energetic and we never felt the engine run out of steam. In handling, there are tremendous differences between the 280E and E500. Mercedes joined forces with Porsche to create the car. Porsche's primary duty was to fine-tune the suspension - and they did a terrific job at it. The steering is uncannily precise for a W124 E-Class and the handling is a phenomenal mix between sports sedan and luxury car. On the Autobahn especially, the E500 is a joy to drive. The stability and power of the car never cease to amaze. In 3rd gear on the Autobahn, the E500 can be driven to 170 km/h, Shift up into 4th and you quickly reach 250 km/h all the while being pushed back into the plush leather seats. The 1994 500E seen here is owned by Alexander Klein, an automotive marketing expert working and living in Stuttgart. This particular E500 was part of the 500 unit "Limited Edition" series and was only available in Sapphire Black and Brilliantsilver. Being a limited edition model, this E500 was filled with a lot of standard equipment. Nevertheless, there were still many cost-options available to those for whom money was no object. Take for example the EVO II 8 1/4 x 17 rims, which the first owner had ordered before Alexander Klein bought the car with 71,000 km on the clock. Klein, however, only drives the car on special occassions. Since purchasing his E500 in 2003, he has only added 10,000 km to the car. Impressed with the E500, I enter the E63 AMG: the newest and most powerful E-Class from the house of Mercedes-Benz. The moment I enter the smooth cabin, I feel as if I am in a spaceship. The W211 interior has more buttons than the W114 and W124 I just drove. No wonder that the instruction manual has grown to 406 pages (compared to 68 pages for the 280E and 140 pages for the E500). I don't let this bother me and seat myself into the soft Nappa-Alacantara leather combo seats and turn on the engine via start-button. The light alloy V8 awakes with a ferocious growl. 6208cc, 514-horsepower @ 6,800 RPM make it the most powerful naturally aspirated V8 on the planet. I engage the 7-speed automatic into D and let her rip. The AMG delivers a lot of punch at any RPM, and the engine response is beautiful too. At 2,000 RPM, the engine already deliver 500 Nm of torque. At 7,200 RPM, the fun stops as the engine speed is limited here. In the 280E I drove towards the first curve, in the E500 I flew towards the first curve: in the E63 AMG, the curve jumped in my face at lightning speed. Yes ladies and gentleman, that's how fast this car is. The brakes are excellent and powerful. Overtaking is not an issue with the car, it's got the power. Before the driver can even finish his thoughts about overtaking the slower car, it's already happened. The handling is superb - and best of all, the driving comfort doesn't suffer at all. Comfortable? Check. Sporty? Oh yeah. Amazing considering that the suspension of the E63 AMG is softer than that of the E500 Limited, and yet it outhandles that car too. Compared to the E280 and E500, the E63 AMG seems to come from another planet - no, not planet, galaxy. Maximum power, driving pleasure and handling packaged into an everyday car. And yet, it is just the most recent creation of what began in the 1960s as the 280E... 280E Technical Data Engine: 2746cc inline-6 Power: 185-horsepower @ 6,000 RPM Torque: 238 Nm @ 4,500 RPM Transmission: 4-speed manual (optional 5-speed manual or 4-speed automatic) 0-100 km/h: 9.8 seconds Top Speed: 200 km/h Fuel Economy: 16 L / 100 km Units Produced: 22,836 E500 Technical Data Engine: 4973cc V8 Power: 320-horsepower @ 5,600 RPM Torque: 470 Nm @ 3,900 RPM Transmission: 4-speed automatic 0-100 km/h: 6.1 seconds Top Speed: 250 km/h (limited) Fuel Economy: 16.9 L / 100 km Units Produced: 500 E63 AMG Technical Data Engine: 6208cc V8 Power: 514-horsepower @ 6,800 RPM Torque: 630 Nm @ 5,200 RPM Transmission: 7-speed automatic 0-100 km/h: 4.5 seconds Top Speed: 250 km/h (limited) Fuel Economy: 14.3 L / 100 km Units Produced: currently in production Ok, I am tired and exhausted after scannning and translating the good stuff. 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12-02-2006, 12:27 PM	#2
Bruce Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 10,183 Thanks: 5,331 Thanked 3,852 Times in 2,260 Posts	Re: MB Classic: 280E (W114) vs E500 Limited (W124) vs E63 AMG (W211) Fantastic stuff Christian, right now i've got to go out, so i'll be sure to read it all later

12-02-2006, 01:22 PM	#3
NevadaJack Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Las Vegas, NV USA Posts: 1,099 Thanks: 85 Thanked 296 Times in 136 Posts	Re: MB Classic: 280E (W114) vs E500 Limited (W124) vs E63 AMG (W211) My first MB was a 1977 280E Sedan, a W123 I think. I was a total novice about MB and bought it after my '77 Cad Seville was stolen and the quality on the replacement was so bad I refused delivery and stopped at a MB dealer on the way home. The salesman took me for a test drive in a 450SE or somthing like that and it was a big hulk and not what I wanted...my wife was giving me sneers. He said they had a smaller car called the 280E and once I drove that I was sold and so was my wife. It was that "muddy mustard brown" with a Saddle interior. Took delivery the next day and never looked back. Followed it with a '79 SL and I was on my way to a life of MB...:-) Thanks for posting even though it is the earlier W113/114...brought back some nice memories.

12-02-2006, 07:50 PM	#6
Bruce Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 10,183 Thanks: 5,331 Thanked 3,852 Times in 2,260 Posts	Re: MB Classic: 280E (W114) vs E500 Limited (W124) vs E63 AMG (W211) Just finished reading it all: "In handling, there are tremendous differences between the 280E and E500. Mercedes joined forces with Porsche to create the car. Porsche's primary duty was to fine-tune the suspension - and they did a terrific job at it." Had no clue about that, very interesting information. Mean while i'm surprised to see just 500 E500 Limited Editions made it out of the factory, would you happen to know how many standard W124 E500's Mercedes made?

12-03-2006, 12:04 PM	#9
Giannis Devotee Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Patra, Greece Posts: 3,934 Thanks: 255 Thanked 301 Times in 232 Posts	Re: MB Classic: 280E (W114) vs E500 Limited (W124) vs E63 AMG (W211) nice article Christian! one question: how can anyone subscribe to this magazine if it is availiable in english ???

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