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Old 09-25-2007, 01:59 PM   #21
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Re: Facebook a $10 billion company? Anyone use it?

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Great link, bmer. Thanks.

So from the article, at a $5b FB valuation, myspace would be worth $12b. At $10b for FB, myspace is worth $24 billion. Myspace's parent company, News Corp, only has assets worth $62 billion as of 2007. According to these crazy valuations, their myspace unit (which cost $580m in 2005) could account for 40% of the world's largest media empire's assets. Does that not seem absolutely absurd? But then again American mortgage lenders granting mortgages to people without checking their income is equally absurd.

If FB gets to a $10b valuation (and it probably will), we're looking at 2000 internet stock bubble all over again. With the mortgage mess in America, the last thing it needs is another bubble. The article says the bidders don't care about price. I don't know why I read that line so much today. They better start caring about price because the goal of business is to make a profit. You don't make profits when you overpay. I think the American economy is setting itself up for a mighty, mighty fall, but most economists are too blind or conflicted in their interests to see it.

I think you're confusing assets with market value/capitalisation. Even if myspace could be spin-ed off for 24 billions I don't think it would have anywhere near 24 blns. in assets.
If this is the era of Internet 2.0 that means there will be a bubble 2.0 .
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Re: Facebook a $10 billion company? Anyone use it?

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I think you're confusing assets with market value/capitalisation. Even if myspace could be spin-ed off for 24 billions I don't think it would have anywhere near 24 blns. in assets.
If this is the era of Internet 2.0 that means there will be a bubble 2.0 .
Though I wasn't confusing balance sheet assets with market cap, good observation nonetheless, IE. At the time I wrote that post, I didn't have News Corp's market cap. I only knew its assets were $62 billion, so I hastily threw that in the post instead. Its actual market cap is $70+ billion. I altered the original post. Well-spotted!

You're right that myspace would only be a tiny, tiny, miniature part of News Corp's $62 billion assets. However, at $24 billion it would represent 1/3rd of NWS current market cap! That is an outrageous valuation, especially considering what other media properties News Corp has. For a company that cost $580 million in 2005 to suddenly be worth 1/3rd of News Corp's market value two-years later is crazy. Mr. Murdoch will have his $24b when someone pulls the trigger and pays a price that crystallizes FB's value at $10b.
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Re: Facebook a $10 billion company? Anyone use it?

Yes it is way over its value.

I remember the pre bubble days of late 1999/early 2000, when companies like MS and Cisco were valued at over 600 billion dollars each. MS "worth" its value more then Cisco as by it's profits (Windows and Office) it was no.3 in the world and by free cash flow nothing could touch it.

Then boom.
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