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| Global Urban Property Boom -- Is it out of control? Crash? What crash? In the world's top cities, real estate has never been hotter. ![]() By Joseph Contreras and Emily Flynn Vencat Newsweek International March 19, 2007 issue - Cedric Cañas has been living the life of a handsomely paid expatriate for most of the past 12 years. The 33-year-old Spanish banker has spent time in both Boston and London, but it is New York City that he knows best, having first come to Manhattan in 1997. Cañas sold his one-bedroom Battery Park apartment at the end of 2005 when he was transferred to Madrid, but this winter he was sent back to the Big Apple, and he recently purchased a two-bedroom flat in Midtown for $1.3 million. Only this time around, Cañas intends to keep his New York property no matter where he goes next. "New York City is one of the principal cities of the world for finance; people from all over the world are coming here," says the Harvard Business School graduate. "At some point down the road, I'll probably be coming back to New York as well." Cañas is a perfect example of the high-earning, globe-trotting cosmocrats who are driving housing prices skyward in the choicest world cities. From San Francisco and Seattle to Moscow and Shanghai, prices for prime residential property are surging, even as overall national numbers in some markets continue to be depressed amid worries of global recession and a real-estate bubble. The triumph of the glamour cities turns conventional wisdom on its head—for quite a while, experts including Yale's Robert Shiller have been predicting that these cities, having been hyped the most, would likely fall farthest, fastest. The decoupling of national and local real-estate trends, which were once much more closely linked, reflects the lives of the new "superprime" property buyers themselves, roughly 50 percent of whom are expatriates, according to the global-property research firm Jones Lang LaSalle. While globalization has allowed money, but not necessarily people, to roam the world more freely, Cañas and his colleagues are an exception—they float on a cushion of international capital, largely immune to regional concerns, and are flush with cash. They're getting even more flush. A second consecutive year of big bonuses for bankers and traders has helped reignite demand for residential property in coveted neighborhoods like London's South Kensington and the Upper West Side of New York. Even outside these chief financial capitals, a decade of bull markets has swollen the ranks of the superrich so much that there is now a class of property buyer who can collect pied-à-terre apartments in Paris and Buenos Aires the way the merely wealthy collect cars or wine. With so much money in so many more people's pockets, the demand for luxury housing in the most-sought-after cities has simply outstripped available supply, hence the eye-popping prices. This is especially true in the toniest quarters of these cities, where growth is often double or even triple the over-all city figures. "It's quite an interesting irony that these buyers are globally footloose," says Sue Foxley, head of residential-property research at Jones Lang LaSalle, "because there are probably only 100 streets around the world on their shopping list." newsweek |
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| Re: Global Urban Property Boom -- Is it out of control? Nothing new here. It is always going to be popular to live on Manhattan NY or in Chelsea London. There prices will just keep on escalating forever. Prices are even going to get more jacked up thanks to new millionaires like Poker players. |
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| Re: Global Urban Property Boom -- Is it out of control? I agree with Luw, this is nothing new. Although some of the big cities like the one I live in, Miami, are having a housing crisis. The real estate as boomed so much because of the market, foreign investment, and the 'flippers' that many, if they had to, could not purchase a new home because of the rise in house prices. I remember when a house in Miami, a nice home, would go for about $200,000-$300,000. You could get 3 beds with 3 baths and a nice pool for that amount. That same house is not worth $700,000-$900,000 today days. Although many argue that real estate is the best investment, some are having a hard time, such as developers, getting sales high since now it has become a buyers market. "they float on a cushion of international capital, largely immune to regional concerns, and are flush with cash." This is absolutely true. Thank you Rob. |
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| Re: Global Urban Property Boom -- Is it out of control? I have been so busy lately and haven't logged in. How's it going, Rob? My username has been amended slightly because my old one doesn't work any longer! Maybe I'll ask the mods to fix that for me. That article typifies everything that is wrong with the property market, especially in the USA. The source is Jones Lang Lasalle, a firm whose profits are tied to the health of the property market. Housing in the U.S. is in trouble because an alarming percentage of mortgages are subprime and held by homeowners with the worst possible credit! The only people calling a bottom to the American housing downturn work for organizations with a vested interest in having a strong real-estate market. |
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| Re: Global Urban Property Boom -- Is it out of control? What? Why didn't my post show up? Damn, have to write it again. I had to amend my username because my old one stopped working and I can't reset my PW. Nice to see you still active, Rob. The article is not perfectly objective in my opinion. It keeps quoting Jones Lang Lasalle. They are a property services company with a vested interest in seeing a continuation of the bull market in real-estate. It seems that the only analysts calling a bottom to the American real-estate market downturn are those working at property companies. The fact of the matter is, and even Mr. Greenspan has warned about this, the subprime mortgage lending market in the U.S. is in deep trouble. HSBC is one of the largest banks in the world and they are being hit by the woes in their American subprime business. Small subprime lenders have gone bankrupt or will go bankrupt. An alarming number of homeowners, probably 10-14%, were able to get mortgages despite having the worst statistical credit. They are safe if their house goes up in value constantly, but once that stops, and it has stopped, then they are in deep trouble. Can they say foreclosure and bankruptcy? Also, there is no such thing as being immune to corrections. Canas sounds like an investment banker. They work in a very cyclical business. If he thinks he is immune, perhaps he sound do a google search and read up on the number of investment bankers that were out of their arse after the 2000 internet and tech. stock crash. |
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London Prime Home Prices Have Biggest Gain Since 1979 By Peter Woodifield Jan. 15 (Bloomberg) -- The prices of London's most expensive homes rose last year at the fastest pace since Margaret Thatcher became prime minister in 1979, as bankers receiving record bonuses competed for a limited supply of properties. Prices of prime properties in the U.K. capital gained 2.6 percent in December, bringing the increase for the year to 28.6 percent, London-based Knight Frank LLC, an international real- estate broker, said today in a statement. In 1979, prices advanced almost 44 percent. ``Bonus money has already started to impact the market,'' said Liam Bailey, head of residential research at Knight Frank. ``The proportion of prospective purchasers making an offer has increased since November. Much of this demand is due to people wanting to find a property before bonuses are distributed.'' Workers in London's financial district may have earned a record 8.8 billion pounds ($16.8 billion) in bonuses last year, 18 percent more than in 2005, according to the city's Centre for Economics and Business Research Ltd. London house prices rose at the fastest annual pace in at least four years last month, pushing the average asking price to 355,097 pounds, according to Rightmove Plc, the country's biggest property Web site. The biggest gains in prime properties in December were in Chelsea, an area traditionally favored by bankers, as well as in Kensington, and Belgravia. Prices in those districts rose about 4 percent in the month, Knight Frank said. Belgravia prices jumped 35 percent last year and 34 percent in Chelsea. Property Shortage A property in central London that cost 100,000 pounds to buy in 1976, when Knight Frank started its survey, would have been worth almost 3.7 million pounds at the end of December. The same amount invested in the FTSE All-Share Index would have been worth almost 2.1 million pounds at the end of 2006. Consumer prices in Britain have risen about 400 percent over the same period. In 1979, inflation was more than four times higher than now and investors were switching into assets from stocks and bonds, Bailey said. Prices for prime London properties rose by at least 2 percent a month in 10 of the last 11 months and have risen for 24 straight months. The increases have been driven by a combination of a shortage of properties for sale and more potential buyers, said Knight Frank. The proportion of prospective buyers making an offer rose 8 percentage points since November to more than 20 percent. Mittal, Abramovich ``The majority of growth has been in the market above 4 million pounds as shortages of stock continue to drive prices upward,'' said Bailey. ``We anticipate stock levels to improve in the new year as people return to the market.'' Lakshmi Mittal, chairman of the world's largest steel company, paid 70 million pounds in 2004 for a 12-bedroomed house in Kensington Palace Gardens. Other buyers of prime London properties in recent years include Roman Abramovich, Russia's richest man and owner of Chelsea Football Club, and brewing heiress Charlene de Carvalho-Heineken as well as Russian billionaire Boris Berezovsky, who was granted political asylum in the U.K. in 2003. Knight Frank's survey covers apartments that cost an average of more than 1.5 million pounds and houses valued at an average of about 3 million pounds in seven central London postal districts. Knight Frank currently has 27 properties for sale costing more than 3 million pounds in the seven postal districts covered by the survey. The most expensive is Swan House on Chelsea Embankment overlooking the River Thames, which is on sale for 32 million pounds. The three-story house offers 19,000 square feet of living space, a gym, cinema, ballroom, a swimming pool and staff accommodation for 22. London is the most expensive city in the world for prime real estate, CB Richard Ellis Group Inc. said in September. Prices in neighborhoods such as Chelsea and Hampstead averaged $2,244 a square foot in the second quarter. The same space for Manhattan homes -- on Fifth Avenue, Park Avenue and Madison Avenue near Central Park -- cost about $1,870 a square foot. The bonus season for the 330,000 workers of financial firms in London lasts from December to April, from the first announcements to the final payouts, according to Knight Frank. | |
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| Re: Global Urban Property Boom -- Is it out of control? There's a property boom here in Singapore right now, but honestly these things go up and down in a continuous cycle. I don't think the global boom is out of control, but within individual countries there are bound to be crashes, especially in more volatile 'new' cities like Singapore. Places like NYC have established themselves for hundreds of years already as global cities which will have their constant stream of investment and immigrants. |
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| Re: Global Urban Property Boom -- Is it out of control? Why do property companies keep talking out of their arse like that? Do they think that property prices can only going up? 3.7 million pounds is still a huge price for London. Only properties in Belgravia, Mayfair, Kensington, etc. can fetch that average price. Reading that article, I get the impression that 3.7 million quid is the price for a distinctly 'average' London property. It's not! |
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| Re: Global Urban Property Boom -- Is it out of control? Those talking about a "soft landing" for the real estate market right now have something to gain by fomenting public confidence in Real Estate. Mainly: Mortgage Brokers & Realtors. What was National Association of Realtors saying last year? "It's a great time to buy a home, because now more than ever, there's so much choice afforded to buyers." They were also saying that we'd be back to price growth by the end of 2007. Check with your local Century 21 agent and I'm sure they'll have some wonderful spin about how the current situation is just a hiccup in an otherwise wonderful market. The rotten stench coming from the subprime lending debacle is only the tip of the iceberg guys. Just like the tech bubble of the late 90s, investors have behaved like mindless sheep and bought into nonsense like "Real Estate is the [i]only[/i sure-fire investment that always appreciates and outpaces inflation." (I actually heard that from a coworker, verbatim). People have lost their minds and are treating their homes like 401ks. Here's the deal: 1 - The fundamentals got out of whack. People aren't earning more, they've just been gaining access to credit that's well above their pay grade. More eligible buyers = price inflation. 2 - In the states, prices are frozen because nobody wants to budge. If your home appraises at $800,000 and you've been watching gleefully as your equity racks up, you're not going let that go without a fight - especially if you've fooled yourself into thinking that prices can only go up. There's also the fact that you'll catch hell from your neighbors if you "run down the neighborhood" by undercutting percieved values. Prices aren't freefalling right now because there's not a significant volume of lower-priced homes on the market... yet. 3 - And speaking of yet. Banks aren't fond of holding on to homes, because they're liabilities on their balance sheets. 1 out of 8 subprime loans are going to default in the near-term future and will have their homes gobbled-up and spat out for fire-sale prices. Not only will there be a sudden surge of forclosed properties on the market, but there's the added knock-on effect of tighter standards for mortgage loans. More volume and a restricted pool of eligible buyers equals an inevitable drop in prices. Count my words guys, unless there's a major natural disaster or terrorist attack - Real Estate will be the story of late 2007. Virtually overnight, the same people who have been talking about the miracle of real estate will be wondering what the hell they were thinking and how they could have been so diluded to think that growth could have continued at double-digit rates ad infinium. There will be a double-digit correction in prices, retail will suffer and families across America will feel the pain as they choose between foreclosure or making payments on loans that exceed the value of their properties by a wide margin. |
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| Re: Global Urban Property Boom -- Is it out of control? Osnabrueck, that post of yours might be the best I have read here. The realtors, brokers, construction and those 'national associations' have been calling a bottom to the real estate market every single month. |
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