This is what is happening in your, mine, our world. And it really pisses me off!

Kowalski · 02-12-2007, 05:26 PM

I am truly schocked none of you posted this before.

I have not enough words to describe my indignation with this.

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Brazilian Boy Killed in Car Theft

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil (AP) - A 6-year-old boy was dragged to death when two men stole his mother's car and he got stuck in the seat belt trying to escape, police said Thursday.

Joao Helio Fernandes was in the car with his mother and his sister Wednesday night when the thieves surprised them in Osvaldo Cruz, a district on Rio's poor north side, police said.

The women managed to escape, but Joao, who had opened his door, could not free himself from his seat belt and was dragged for about 4 miles, police inspector Hercules Pires do Nascimento of the 30th precinct station in the Marechal Hermes district said by telephone.

The thieves saw the boy was stuck in the belt and drove at high speed, swerving back and forth, in an unsuccessful attempt to get him out of the car, Nascimento said.

The thieves eventually abandoned the car and walked away, leaving the boy hanging from the car. He was taken to a hospital but died.

Police said two suspects were arrested late Thursday but did not provide other details on the detention.

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Death of 6-year-old Boy Dragged Through Rio's Streets Horrifies Brazil
Written by José Wilson Miranda
Saturday, 10 February 2007

Veja magazine's cover on death of little João Hélio Vieities, in Rio. Brazil

Brazil is in mourning. The death of a little boy dragged for several miles through Rio de Janeiro streets, with his blood, fingers and pieces of brain splattered on the asphalt of the violent city while two youngsters, one of them a minor, rushed in a car they had just stolen, shook a town and a country that seemed anesthetized to all violence even the most barbarous.

The death of little João Hélio Fernandes Vieites, who was going to be 7 in March, touched people in a way no recent massacre or tragedy had been able to.

Veja, Brazil's most read weekly magazine, with about 1.2 million copies, is coming this Saturday to subscribers and newsstands with a black cover framing the grainy picture of João Hélio under which the publication issues a challenge to the Brazilian people: "Dragged through four Rio de Janeiro districts, dead, mangled by criminals, and once again... AREN'T WE GOING TO DO A THING?"

Inside, the cover article is called "No limits for the savagery", with the subtitle: "The public torture of a 6-year-old boy in Rio shows that Brazil is in the emergency room of a social tragedy in which the criminals decide who lives and who dies."

João Hélio's tragedy happened last Wednesday, February 7, a little after 9 pm. Rose Vieites, his mother, was driving her car after going to church on her way to meet the husband for a late dinner. Together with her were her 13-year-old daughter Aline, a lady friend and her little son.

Two gunmen approached the vehicle when she stopped on a red light and ordered all of them out. Everybody obeyed promptly, but the boy took longer to comply since he was strapped at the car seat. The mother rushed to help him, but while she was taking him out the robbers drove away in high speed while she run after them screaming that the boy was hanging from the car still half strapped to the seat. He would be dragged for over four miles.

Commenting on the circumstances and on the level crime has reached in Brazil, Veja sounds indignant: "We had enough explanations. Every social degradation phenomenon has an explanation. Rome's fall, the rise of Adolf Hitler, the spread of the Bolshevik disease throughout the world, the destruction of Brazilian cities by criminals and their partisans and supporters - or simply those who are blind - among the intelligentsia, the police and in politics".

"The public martyrdom of little João Hélio is loosening the tongue of dozens of explainers. They are the same who stroked the head of "my little boys" who came down from the hills to the asphalt to take away a little of the lot that the rich had so they could be able to provide for their mothers on the hill. Let's stop romanticizing the criminal and blaming abstractions like "violence", "neoliberalism", and the "middle class negligence."...

A motorcyclist who tried to warns the robbers told his appalling story: "In the first curve, the head hit the sidewalk's edge and the blood spurted on my clothes. I started to scream and to honk, but noticed that the child was already dead. When I managed to reach the car, one of the occupants put the gun on my face and told me to get lost."

The gunmen ran for ten minutes and then abandoned the car in a deserted street. At that time, the boy still strapped to the belt, didn't have a head, knees or fingers in his hands.

A witness told police that he saw the gunmen when they stopped. One of them, he said, noticed the boy's body hanging from the car, then he looked inside the vehicle for anything of value he could find before running away by foot. Apparently they didn't want the car, just the goods inside.

Veja accuses the Brazilian society of letting itself back into savagery for refusing to pay the price of facing banditism and keep itself civilized. "The most discouraging," says the magazine, "is to find out that little João Hélio suffered his torture in vain. Nothing is going to happen to the criminals who dismembered him in public and soon they and others will be on the streets preying on other little Joãos."

The publication pans what it calls "much talk and little action," which takes experts to national and international seminaries and in trips to know cities that won over crime: "When the issue is crime Brazil is not in the ICU (Intensive Care Unit)... it is in the emergency room. Unfortunately, the decision of who lives and who dies in this room, is in the criminals hands.

Veja lists a series of measures that should be taken immediately according to experts heard by the magazine:

* To limit the time bars are kept open. It cites the example of Diadema, in the greater São Paulo, which reduced its homicide rate by 68% by ordering all bars to be closed by 11 pm.

* To be less liberal with inmates and minors who break the law.

* To create a multidisciplinary network to assist youngsters having problem with the law.

* To make community policing a priority.

* To devise special courts to try in a speedy way policemen charged with corruption and other crimes.

"I am used to see violent scenes," said Hércules do Nascimento, the police chief in charge of little João Hélio case, "but this was a barbaric thing. I didn't have the courage to raise the plastic to see the boy."

The police say that two youngsters, Diego da Silva, 18, and E. (a minor), have confessed the crime telling details of what they've done and showing very little emotion. They have also implicated two other youths.

The father of E. could not believe his son had done that: "He didn't need that," he told reporters. "He was studying and he was making money washing cars. I knew my son was keeping bad company, but I never imagined he could do something like this."

During the funeral, Aline, the older sister, was inconsolable. "I want my baby back," she screamed in pain. "I want my brother back, I want to hear his little voice again." And then added in a softer tone: "I'm so sorry, little brother, that I could not save you."

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A lot of you (and me) would be grateful for not being your (mine) 6 year child. But can you imagine the suffering Joao parents are going through?

May little Joao's soul rest in peace.

The Artist · 02-12-2007, 05:35 PM

I really dont have words for this..
Tragic i hope his family can find peace

And i hope those who did this.. die the same way

enzo354 · 02-12-2007, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Artist

I really dont have words for this..
Tragic i hope his family can find peace

And i hope those who did this.. die the same way

Couldnt say it any better

Bruce · 02-12-2007, 11:15 PM

It's unbelievable to think a human being is capable of such terrible things..

Actually I can see it.. because I feel like taking a baseball bat and smashing every bone in those bastards bodies after I tie them to a car and drag them down a high way at 60 MPH. Of course, things of such nature happen all over the world..but when I hear about It, it infuriates the hell out of me.

Michael · 02-13-2007, 12:03 AM

How interesting. I wonder if those that said that what they said about ANS would say it here. Heck, I didn't know this guy, why should I care? Tisk tisk.

Well, in the end this is really tragic. I can't believe the things I see and hear on a daily basis. This is what news agencies report and this is what we get. It makes you wonder if it is a vicious circle that has been created so that society can function. Do a crime, news agency reports it, people are scared, there is a moral to the story, and we all move on. This happens at least 10 times a day, every day. So, sad that this little boy died the way he did at the mercy of--more than likely--two ignorant men(teenagers).

RIP

Bruce · 02-13-2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael

How interesting. I wonder if those that said that what they said about ANS would say it here. Heck, I didn't know this guy, why should I care? Tisk tisk.

You shouldn't, if that's how you feel. As was pointed out, different deaths mean different things to different people. In my humble opinion there is no retracting here, no contradiction.

Anna Nicole Smith didn't suffer a terrible death by being dragged behind a car for 4 miles. There is a big difference in how I feel about the death of a self destructive, manipulative gold digger in comparsion to that of an innocent child who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Truly tragic

YoUhimhER · 02-13-2007, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The Artist

I really dont have words for this..
Tragic i hope his family can find peace

And i hope those who did this.. die the same way

i agree 100%

EnI · 02-13-2007, 04:55 AM

This is tragic indeed. While ANS's death was more ... grotesque.

See the difference?

SDNR · 02-13-2007, 05:57 AM

I think both deaths are tragic ....but ANS at least lived to be an adult (of sorts).

Mr. M · 02-13-2007, 06:04 AM

This is not an isolated case. It is one of many ill-fated tragedies that we are so used to in our world today... It's very sad. I do my part to live my life as compassionately as I can be.

02-12-2007, 05:35 PM	#2
The Artist Expert Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Gothenburg Posts: 13,186 Thanks: 257 Thanked 1,235 Times in 678 Posts	Re: This is what is happening in your, mine, our world. And it really pisses me off! I really dont have words for this.. Tragic i hope his family can find peace And i hope those who did this.. die the same way

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Bruce Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 10,183 Thanks: 5,331 Thanked 3,852 Times in 2,260 Posts	Re: This is what is happening in your, mine, our world. And it really pisses me off! It's unbelievable to think a human being is capable of such terrible things.. Actually I can see it.. because I feel like taking a baseball bat and smashing every bone in those bastards bodies after I tie them to a car and drag them down a high way at 60 MPH. Of course, things of such nature happen all over the world..but when I hear about It, it infuriates the hell out of me. Last edited by Bruce; 02-12-2007 at 11:23 PM..

02-13-2007, 12:03 AM	#5
Michael Devotee Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 3,530 Thanks: 239 Thanked 323 Times in 196 Posts	Re: This is what is happening in your, mine, our world. And it really pisses me off! How interesting. I wonder if those that said that what they said about ANS would say it here. Heck, I didn't know this guy, why should I care? Tisk tisk. Well, in the end this is really tragic. I can't believe the things I see and hear on a daily basis. This is what news agencies report and this is what we get. It makes you wonder if it is a vicious circle that has been created so that society can function. Do a crime, news agency reports it, people are scared, there is a moral to the story, and we all move on. This happens at least 10 times a day, every day. So, sad that this little boy died the way he did at the mercy of--more than likely--two ignorant men(teenagers). RIP

02-13-2007, 04:55 AM	#8
EnI Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,905 Thanks: 124 Thanked 1,737 Times in 840 Posts	Re: This is what is happening in your, mine, our world. And it really pisses me off! This is tragic indeed. While ANS's death was more ... grotesque. See the difference?

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SDNR Connoisseur Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 5,985 Thanks: 1,319 Thanked 870 Times in 534 Posts	Re: This is what is happening in your, mine, our world. And it really pisses me off! I think both deaths are tragic ....but ANS at least lived to be an adult (of sorts).

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Mr. M Connoisseur Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 6,103 Thanks: 2,036 Thanked 1,722 Times in 925 Posts	Re: This is what is happening in your, mine, our world. And it really pisses me off! This is not an isolated case. It is one of many ill-fated tragedies that we are so used to in our world today... It's very sad. I do my part to live my life as compassionately as I can be.

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