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| Re: Autozeitung: BMW 335i Touring vs Audi S4 Avant vs MB C55 AMG T-Modell Well,I would not count on it because IMO 911 would loose too much with heavy V8 in the tail,especially on handling..BMW showed the way with 3.0 TT and is only naturally that others will try to do something similar in their engine department..IMO |
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| Re: Autozeitung: BMW 335i Touring vs Audi S4 Avant vs MB C55 AMG T-Modell Quote:
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| Re: Autozeitung: BMW 335i Touring vs Audi S4 Avant vs MB C55 AMG T-Modell Quote:
(although I6 are very smooth) , large percentage of torque from low RPM , also a V8 technically has more horse power per given displacement. | |
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| Re: Autozeitung: BMW 335i Touring vs Audi S4 Avant vs MB C55 AMG T-Modell Quote:
there are advantages and disadvantages with all engines. | |
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| Re: Autozeitung: BMW 335i Touring vs Audi S4 Avant vs MB C55 AMG T-Modell Quote:
HP = torque x engine speed x (some coefficients). Torque is the measured twisting force the engine actually makes, which can be measure at the crank or at the drive wheels, while HP is often a calculated value. To get high torque, you either need large displacment (like the C55), or forced induction (like the 335i). However, that is not the only way to get high HP, as illlustrated beautifully by the E46 M3 and E60 M5. They have relatively smaller displacement engines (and lowish torque), but they depend on high engine speed to compensate. And the only way to get very high engines speeds without blowing up the engine is to have a short stroke (which means the engine can't be that large). That's why it is relatively rare to have a high reving large displacment engine, while the smaller rev happy engines are always the ones with the >100HP/Litre of displacement. There are exceptions, but this is a general rule. Engines in F1 are the perfect examples of small engines making tons of HP because of super high engine speeds. | |
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| Re: Autozeitung: BMW 335i Touring vs Audi S4 Avant vs MB C55 AMG T-Modell True. BMW is also making some of the best V8 and V10 engines in the world so that proves that an I6 configuration (even with turbo) has it's limits. |
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| Re: Autozeitung: BMW 335i Touring vs Audi S4 Avant vs MB C55 AMG T-Modell Quote:
V8 simply has much more potential than a V6/I6. Just like a V10 has that over a V8, and a V12 over a V8. | |
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| Re: Autozeitung: BMW 335i Touring vs Audi S4 Avant vs MB C55 AMG T-Modell I read in Autobild that Audi is preparing a turbo version of the 3.2 lt V6. I hope that it's true cause right now BMW's 3.0 turbo has no competition. ![]() |
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