Autozeitung: LEXUS RX 400H vs BMW X3 3.0sd - Page 3

Tycoon · 12-05-2006, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cawimmer430

With Lexus, there is no passion so to speak off because they were created by Toyota: they didn't have to "survive, fight and innovate" like Mercedes had to in the late 19th century and early 20th century.

True, true...

cawimmer430 · 12-05-2006, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 7.3 AMG

I was actually interested by what you said about the LS, so i went to compare Road & Track's figures for both the S550 and the LS460

From 60mph

S550: 130ft
LS460: 143ft

From 80mph

S550: 229ft
LS460:251ft

So there you go, the LS460 doesn't brake as well as the S550..

Yep, 100% agreed

As for the North American market, they don't really have any problems there, maybe selling Lexus' in Europe is just a low priority for them

Yep, I remember that Car and Driver comparison and how the LS didn't brake that well. But who needs good brakes when the car can park itself.

j/k

Lexus does indeed seem half-hearted about Europe. No engine choices, no trim level options and totally off taste with the European mentality.

Bruce · 12-05-2006, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cawimmer430

Yep, I remember that Car and Driver comparison and how the LS didn't brake that well. But who needs good brakes when the car can park itself.

j/k

.........

Lol!

Here are the other braking figures, for comparion..actually this is a good idea for my next data thread..

From 60mph

745Li: 117ft
Phaeton: 122ft
XJ8L: 125ft
A8L: 127ft
S550: 130ft
S500 - W220: 133ft
LS460: 143ft

From 80mph

745Li: 203ft
Phaeton: 218ft
A8L: 219ft
XJ8L: 223ft
S550: 229ft
S500 - W220: 247ft
LS460: 251ft

Mr. M · 12-05-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 7.3 AMG

.........

Lol!

Here are the other braking figures, for comparion..actually this is a good idea for my next data thread..

From 60mph

745Li: 117ft
Phaeton: 122ft
XJ8L: 125ft
A8L: 127ft
S550: 130ft
S500 - W220: 133ft
LS460: 143ft

From 80mph

745Li: 203ft
Phaeton: 218ft
A8L: 219ft
XJ8L: 223ft
S550: 229ft
S500 - W220: 247ft
LS460: 251ft

Hey thanks for that. It's interesting how the Phaeton can brake so well when it's the heaviest of the lot.

cawimmer430 · 12-05-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mirage77

Hey thanks for that. It's interesting how the Phaeton can brake so well when it's the heaviest of the lot.

You know why?

GERMAN ENGINEERING

Bruce · 12-05-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mirage77

Hey thanks for that. It's interesting how the Phaeton can brake so well when it's the heaviest of the lot.

You're welcome.

I was also suprised it was so amazing when it came to braking

meisocool · 12-06-2006, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

[i]Conclusion:
Lexus RX 400h BMW X3 3.0sd

Handling (min.) 1:58,9 1:51,1

Lol

...that was too much of defeat....

Bravo to BMW Engines...

BTW IMO Lexus RX is no slouch though...it rides,looks great(better than X3 exterior IMO)...but hey it's still not BMW..

merve_extreme · 12-06-2006, 10:02 AM

This is my first post here.
see in the C&D test the Mercedes S and Lexus LS were on all weather tyres,where as the BMW 7 ,Jaguar XJ and Audi A8 were on standard summer tyres.

The S550 outbreaks the LS and stops fairly close to the 7-series and A8,the XJ is lightest and hence it stops very well,this shows that the S-class has the best brakes and the LS the worst.

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cawimmer430 · 12-06-2006, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by merve_extreme

This is my first post here.
see in the C&D test the Mercedes S and Lexus LS were on all weather tyres,where as the BMW 7 ,Jaguar XJ and Audi A8 were on standard summer tyres.

The S550 outbreaks the LS and stops fairly close to the 7-series and A8,the XJ is lightest and hence it stops very well,this shows that the S-class has the best brakes and the LS the worst.

- ONLY REGISTERED AND ACTIVATED USERS CAN SEE ALL LINKS - CLICK HERE TO REGISTER

Welcome to Germancarzone!

GREAT POST! (Yes I am biased because you praised the Benz!

)

Bruce · 12-06-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by merve_extreme

This is my first post here.

Welcome

I posted figures all from Road & Track, so it's interesting to see the Car & Driver figures.

12-06-2006, 10:02 AM	#28
merve_extreme Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 158 Thanks: 44 Thanked 66 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Autozeitung: LEXUS RX 400H vs BMW X3 3.0sd This is my first post here. see in the C&D test the Mercedes S and Lexus LS were on all weather tyres,where as the BMW 7 ,Jaguar XJ and Audi A8 were on standard summer tyres. The S550 outbreaks the LS and stops fairly close to the 7-series and A8,the XJ is lightest and hence it stops very well,this shows that the S-class has the best brakes and the LS the worst. - ONLY REGISTERED AND ACTIVATED USERS CAN SEE ALL LINKS - CLICK HERE TO REGISTER

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