Matt

ITs further proof that no matter how good the chassis, frame and suspension are---weight is far more important, even with a much more powerful and torquey engine.

dr Dunkel

The VXR8 is a larger car but on the other hand it has 540 hp...

coolraoul

I fully agree.

The good surprise is the Vauxhall.
The bad surprise is the Merc.
The M3 did what it was expected to do, the best time.

martinbo

"The new M3 sucks. The C63 hands its under-rods to it on a guilded AMG platter. The outgoing RS4 shows the M3 the how performance motoring should be done - and that's from an outgoing model to boot. The M3 is soft like squashy marshmallows - BMW have lost the plot..."

:Poof: [Sound of misguided preconceptions vaporising]

Ahem, sometimes I'm amazed at the level of conjecture posted about this car.

vedjo01

I´ve just pictured myself Martin holding blaster rifle and saying "Do ya feel lucky,punk?" to that journalist..lol
God,I am sick..I´ll go shoot myself now!!

warot

You don't think so??! It beat the Murcielago (damp as well) and a 997 in the dry. M3's were usually kind of scary to drive in the wet, so this is hugely impressive to me. It beat the RS4 in the dry...

dr Dunkel

Well, in that context it is a great time. Maybe the C63's time is'nt that bad, just that the M3's is really good, but I still think the Benz would have done a bit better should it have had the full sport package with LSD and even stiffer suspension. A second at least...

vedjo01

Hmm ,LSD would help..I´m sure of it..I really don´t get it why MB doesn´t equip their AMG models with LSD´s as standard options?IMO,car would have been much,much more fun to drive and it would give that extra control feel that BMW M models have..I´m not saying that current setup is bad..but its not hardcore as it should be IMO

Just_me

All reviews say the suspension is stiffer in C63 AMG than in rs4/M3. If they made the C63 even more hardcore then suspension need to be even stiffer and then the comfort would be even worse, perhaps too stiff to be called a AMG.

Sunny

Here is the times for the previous gen (in the dry):

1:29.80 - BMW M3 CS
1:30.11 - Mercedes-Benz C55 AMG

So unlike what is stated in other threads looks like the gap between the cars have gone up by a big margin. And what is worse is that the C63 has the worse ride now. I am sure C63 is an improvement over C55, looks like it is M3 that has really improved in leaps and bounds.