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| Re: EVO: - M3 vs C63 AMG vs VX8R Andreas,you lucky bastard..thats all what I can say.. ![]() |
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| Re: EVO: - M3 vs C63 AMG vs VX8R A little teaser before someone brings the scans: Bedford Autodrome - West Circuit 1.26,6 BMW M3 1.29,5 Mercedes C63 1.30,0 Vauxhall VXR8 Slightly damp conditions |
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| Re: EVO: - M3 vs C63 AMG vs VX8R Quote:
OK, that laptime for the C63 is pretty disappointing......almost 3 seconds slower than the E92 M3. No, let me rephrase.......that laptime for the C63 is HORRIBLE. Game over. Wonder how the C63 will do on the Nurburgring. The C55 was only 0.3 seconds slower than the E46 M3 CS on Bedford Autodrome. (1.30,1 vs 1.29,8 minutes) | |
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| Re: EVO: - M3 vs C63 AMG vs VX8R Wow, 3 secs off? That is a big margin on a 1:30 track. |
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| Re: EVO: - M3 vs C63 AMG vs VX8R You're right; pretty disappointing time indeed for the C63. And/or a very good one for both M3 and Vauxhall. However...I prefer a car that feels fast than a car that is fast but feels "slow" (like the C55)... Keep in mind also that it is only one test, maybe the car was not broken, or was not in optimal conditions... I wonder if a car with the limited slip differential of the Performance Package will be tested too, it could make a huge difference on a track time... |
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| Re: EVO: - M3 vs C63 AMG vs VX8R Other interesting times in the same range by Evo on the same track. The fact that the track was damp makes a direct comparison impossible. I think the M3 time is really good. Wonder what it would have done with a dry track. 1:26.00 - Porsche 996 Turbo 1:26.10 - Mitsubishi EVO IX 320 1:26.40 - Subaru Impreza WRX STI 1:26.40 - BMW M6 1:26.75 - Aston Martin V8 Vantage 1:26.85 - Porsche Cayman S 1:27.10 - BMW Z4M Coupe 1:28.25 - Audi RS4 1:28.55 - Porsche 987 Boxster S 1:28.60 - Audi B7 RS4 -First Attempt 1:28.70 * Damp - Lamborghini Murcielago: 1:28.85 - Porsche 997 Carrera 1:28.90 - Porsche Cayman S: 1:29.20 * Damp - Lotus Elise 111R 1:29.30 - Mercedes-Benz SLK55 AMG: 1:29.80 - BMW M3 CS 1:29.95 - BMW E60 M5 |
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| Re: EVO: - M3 vs C63 AMG vs VX8R Quote:
I think the M3 laptime is superb, especially if it was a bit damp. Have to wait until we see the article to get the details. | |
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| Re: EVO: - M3 vs C63 AMG vs VX8R As said before, the track was damp and from what I gather non of the cars used r-tires. This leads to the conclusion that neither the M3 nor the C63 used their sport/driver package. I think this may have made more differece to the C63 - the things Evo points out are the brakes (a little more bite, not sure if this is affected by the sport package) and that the car loses posture at the limit (the sport package do feature more track biased suspension). Hopefully the Sport Auto test will feature a C63 with that sport package. But then again, I think we need not worry about that. Sport Auto is a bit more focused on numbers than Evo - after all, this 10 page article has more descriptions of sound than it has figures (they have done an acceleration test but since the track was wet the numbers are rubbish). |
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| Re: EVO: - M3 vs C63 AMG vs VX8R The most impressive laptime is the one the Vauxhall did, not what I expected. The M3 laptime is not really a surprise so nothing spectacular here. |
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