vedjo01

IMO that is because they had to point their finger at something to say that car isn´t without flaws.Thats all to it.I think they˙ve could selected some other thing other than steering feel on M3(IMO M3 is probably best car you can get in its segment) to dislike.
M3 is not easiest car to live with,that I admit..but,these cars(C63 and RS4 especially)are not meant to be driven by morons and ppl who do not appreciate its drive capabilities

atuv

I have to say that i'm impressed with the VXR8..good job!

And EVO giving the C63 4.5 out 5 is IMO a victory for it as much as it's a victory for the M3.

Just_me

Giving the VXR8 4 stars out of 5 makes both M3 and C63 look like bad cars 5 stars is max, what if the max star were 7 stars, would the VXR8 still get 4 and M3 get 5 stars?

dr Dunkel

...and that is the heart of BMW's game and the reason why the M3 is so much loved (and hated by some) - its not that it is the fastest, because there have often been others that were faster but seldom any that were more enjoyable and fun to drive.

Laptimes are something else, that has to do with efficiency and efficiency and entertainment are not always the same thing.

PC Valkyrie

Well, you obviously read my essay.....LOL

But your point about a "Honda" (I presume a Civic or Accord) taking out a RS4 is a poor example of what I'm referring to. Those cars clearly are lower performing cars in stock form compared to a RS4. If a Civic is able to beat a RS4, it must be either very modified, or there is a HUGE difference in driving ability. Nothing like comparing a C-AMG car to a M3 for people of comparable driving ability.

And yes, I like mentioning my "real life" track experiences because I've learned so much from them. I'm still a relative newbie at it, but now I'm able to see through the BS some fanboys have about their favourite brand or car and it's "performance" relative to other cars.

Sunny

Nice! May be this is when I play the told you so card...

It is been the same deal every time a new M3 is out, initially they bitch and whine about how the car has gone soft and then a 180 degree turn around. I bet it will be the same the when next M3 is out. Anyway good to know EVO likes the M3 and puts it above the C63.

The Artist

or they learned to love it..
like you learn to love a new album by your fav artist..when it really isnt flawless..
hihi

PC Valkyrie

I completely agree with you about efficiency and entertainment potentially being different things, especially when you are driving alone on a twisty road.

But here is another thing I've noticed from my track days: as much as people like to deny it, there is a desire among all particpants to go as fast as they safely can, whether you're a novice, or veteran. And although track days are not "races" per say, it is VERY satisfying (as a driver) to keep up with a car (or be faster than that car) that is supposed to be faster than you on the track. It may be because of differences in driving ability/courage, or it may be the perceived differences between the cars is not quite as large when you're not a pro. It can be a blow to the ego if you drive a supposed "superior" car and get passed by a supposed "inferior" car......the entertainment value goes down, no matter how well your car "feels". Efficiency and being happy/satisfied seem to go hand in hand from my experience. Same with Autocross, etc. The goal really is to go as fast as you can safely at these track days or Autocross.

OK, now back to the regularly scheduled topic of this thread: M3 beats the C63 in a Evo magzaine comparison! And for the record, I'm not at all surprised by the verdict from Evo.

bmer

Yup, that seems to be the case.

NarutoRamen

All this truly tells me is that AMG has stepped up it's game and ///M has delieverd what they said they would.