Auto Express: 1-Series Coupé vs rivals - Page 2

Just_me · 11-07-2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Poverty

lol you mad?

I'm furious

lukinjo · 11-07-2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by castagna

Do you think the 135i is perfect?

I think

dr Dunkel · 11-08-2007, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Guibo

Yep. They actually listed quite a lot of good things about it. It's just that for value per £, it can't hope to compete with the economy of scale found in VAG products.

They really dislike it (unlike alomst everyone else), that is for sure. Only positive thing that was not accompanied by a "but" was the engine. Not even Auto-Express could beat down on that :-) From what I can tell the journalists on Auto-Express simply does not like modern style BMW.

cawimmer430 · 11-08-2007, 05:46 AM

I'd take the BMW 1-Series Coupe here. It's the most aesthetically pleasing in my opinion. The Audi TT still looks a bit "weird" and "shrunk" to me and it looks too similar to its predecessor. The VW Golf is a very a boring design that only looks somewhat "interesting" in GTI or R form. I'm sure all of them perform nicely, but I also want my car to look good. BMW for me please.

Guibo · 11-08-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dr Dunkel

They really dislike it (unlike alomst everyone else), that is for sure. Only positive thing that was not accompanied by a "but" was the engine. Not even Auto-Express could beat down on that :-) From what I can tell the journalists on Auto-Express simply does not like modern style BMW.

They did like, without qualifiers, the following:
-brakes
-balance
-cruising manners

They did not like the steering, and I've seen at least one other review stating it was "uninvolving." I will agree there are a whole bunch of things wrong with the article (not holding the VW to the same aesthetic standard against the TT, for example), but equally problematic is that BMW offers only the top-spec as the petrol engine in the UK. From what I see, the 128i won't be offered there. Sport suspension and low-profile runflats over broken pavement have been roundly criticized in British press before, so it's BMW's fault for not offering more suitable alternatives for that market.

dr Dunkel · 11-09-2007, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Guibo

They did like, without qualifiers, the following:
-brakes
-balance
-cruising manners

1. I missed that one in the general elegy.

2. But, to AE this seems to only apply when the car is not pushed.

3. But, to AE this seems to only apply regarding gearing.

Auto Express has a very negative tone towards the 135i from begining to the end. This article is, by far, the worst judgement of the car so far. They simply did not like this car, as they seldom seem to do when it comes to BMW.

After reading previous reports I was rather surprised that the 135i did not come out on top against this competition. Price is maybe a big factor for Auto Express.

Centurion · 11-09-2007, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dr Dunkel

After reading previous reports I was rather surprised that the 135i did not come out on top against this competition. Price is maybe a big factor for Auto Express.

What's so surprising? The TT is a sportier car, more exclusive and is more premium than the 135i, and the GTI is quite hot hatch. This is a no brainer.

shonguiz · 11-09-2007, 08:00 AM

I don't understand how they can compare the 1 coupe with a TT wich is one class upper.

SCOTT27 · 11-09-2007, 08:04 AM

As usual in these tests just to sell magazines , There is no direct rival as such for the 1er Coupe - The TT is more a Z4 Rival than a 1er Coupe rival.
And the Golf is more of a 1er 3dr hatchback rival . Some countries magazines and their group tests hardly make any sense.

Just_me · 11-09-2007, 08:10 AM

True rival for TT is Z4 Coupe, not 1er.
What I reacted to was their comments on the steering and the "chuncky" gearbox. There is absolutly no wrong with that. Who won the comparison, I dont care about.

11-08-2007, 05:46 AM	#14
cawimmer430 Trendsetter Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Mühldorf am Inn, Germany Posts: 8,028 Thanks: 3,975 Thanked 3,189 Times in 1,366 Posts	Re: Auto Express: 1-Series Coupé vs rivals I'd take the BMW 1-Series Coupe here. It's the most aesthetically pleasing in my opinion. The Audi TT still looks a bit "weird" and "shrunk" to me and it looks too similar to its predecessor. The VW Golf is a very a boring design that only looks somewhat "interesting" in GTI or R form. I'm sure all of them perform nicely, but I also want my car to look good. BMW for me please.

11-09-2007, 08:00 AM	#18
shonguiz Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,917 Thanks: 302 Thanked 543 Times in 273 Posts	Re: Auto Express: 1-Series Coupé vs rivals I don't understand how they can compare the 1 coupe with a TT wich is one class upper.

11-09-2007, 08:04 AM	#19
SCOTT27 Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 391 Thanks: 0 Thanked 450 Times in 143 Posts	Re: Auto Express: 1-Series Coupé vs rivals As usual in these tests just to sell magazines , There is no direct rival as such for the 1er Coupe - The TT is more a Z4 Rival than a 1er Coupe rival. And the Golf is more of a 1er 3dr hatchback rival . Some countries magazines and their group tests hardly make any sense.

11-09-2007, 08:10 AM	#20
Just_me Executive Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 15,487 Thanks: 1,062 Thanked 3,722 Times in 1,583 Posts	Re: Auto Express: 1-Series Coupé vs rivals True rival for TT is Z4 Coupe, not 1er. What I reacted to was their comments on the steering and the "chuncky" gearbox. There is absolutly no wrong with that. Who won the comparison, I dont care about.

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