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Old 10-28-2007, 09:55 AM   #41
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Re: Car & Driver: RS4 vs C63 vs M3

I love how MB fans are raving on about the C63 and how hardcore it is and how M3 fans are flipping when euh, attention... It still came second after the M3 in this test.
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Old 10-28-2007, 11:31 AM   #42
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Re: Car & Driver: RS4 vs C63 vs M3

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yes its intresting. I remember all those previous fanboys discussion around the net, including our board. Reason why most people on car boards picked the C55 over M3 becuase the AMG had better comfort . Now that cant be used as an argument anymore and logically AMG fans should pick the M3 since it now offer better comfort than C AMG I wonder how many of them still pick C AMG
I'm sure the C63 AMG still has a massive appeal to AMG customrs, especially those that always wished for something more "hardcore".
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:40 PM   #43
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Re: Car & Driver: RS4 vs C63 vs M3

It seems that the C63 is going to eat M3s for breakfast.
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Re: Car & Driver: RS4 vs C63 vs M3

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What do you mean replace my C55 "now"? I enquired at my (UK) dealer about the M3 sedan with DCT and was told "that combination is at least 12 months away". Is this car coming out in Canada before Europe?
Sorry, I didn't mean literally that I was going to replace my C55 "now". In fact, I have no plans to replace the C55 with anything in the near future. Of course, the M3 sedan with DCT will become available in Europe before it comes to N. America.
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It seems that the C63 is going to eat M3s for breakfast.
I think you're right, when you're talking about driving on everday streets.

In the E36 M3 era, the M3 was faster than the C36 and C43 in straight line acceleration. In the E46 M3 era, the C32/C55 were about the same or slightly faster than the M3 in terms of straight line acceleration. With the C63, I think this is the first time ever that the C-AMG car is SO MUCH faster than the M3 in straight line acceleration.

So for the majority of drivers who don't drive on a track, the C63 likely will leave the M3 in the dust on everday roads (IF the C&D test is reflective of the truth). That may be a harder pill for M3 owners to swallow, because no matter how good the M3 feels, getting blown away decisively doesn't make for a good feeling. It'll be interesting if M5board invites a C63 into their airfield straight line contests in the future......I bet the C63 will be faster than the M3 from any rolling speed.
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Re: Car & Driver: RS4 vs C63 vs M3

haha, again: are we forgetting it still LOST to the M3.
And since when is straightline performance something new for AMG's. it's the way they've been thinking for years.
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Re: Car & Driver: RS4 vs C63 vs M3

a 3.9 sprint is an amazing time-GT3 status in fact. I really like the C63 but i do find the styling a bit crass-which seems highlights the character of the car's driving dynamics-aggressive and fast. Its a bit too "night clubish" for my taste but nonetheless a pretty damn sweet ride.

Glad to see the M3 take its victory and perhaps a hope that BMW hasnt lost sight of the important aspects of this car.
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Re: Car & Driver: RS4 vs C63 vs M3

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It'll be interesting if M5board invites a C63 into their airfield straight line contests in the future......I bet the C63 will be faster than the M3 from any rolling speed.
I wouldn't be surprised to see them fill up the tires with cement over there.
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Re: Car & Driver: RS4 vs C63 vs M3

Lets us not forget that Car and Driver's 0-60 times are the lowest/fastest in the industry. I'd wait to see what other magazines get before taking a 3.9 0-60 time as gospel. The brake-torque method was made for cars like the C63 so in the right hands this method will produce truly heroic 0-60 times. That said, my real concern is all this about the stiff ride/suspension. Very unusual. I'd wait until a U.S. magazine tests all U.S. spec cars to see if our cars will be as stiff. I can almost see it now when Car and Driver does a comparo between the IS-F, C63, RS4, and M3 Sedan on U.S. soil. The finishing order won't likely be the same.

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Re: Car & Driver: RS4 vs C63 vs M3

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I wouldn't be surprised to see them fill up the tires with cement over there.
Yeah since the M5board owns and races all the cars you see at the events they organize, I am sure they will have no problem doing that. May be you should organize an event where you can fill up M car's fuel tanks with sand.
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