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Old 12-09-2005, 03:13 PM   #31
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Re: S350, 730i, A8 3.2 FSI

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My god where do you get this bs?

I hate to feel like I have to ignore your comments but this proves it. Did you actually read the article Yannis? It was a simulation with a idiot magazine editor at the wheels of the car. He was supposed to stop the car and simulate what the system would do. The system wasn't even activated because Mercedes told the magazine that it would not work in their test hall. The system DID NOT FAIL Yannis, the only failure here is you not having read the article and/or understanding what happened.


I'm still waiting on you to admit that you simply don't like Mercedes because you hardly ever make any sense when you try to bash Mercedes. You still think Mercedes' have as poor weight distribution as Audis too I bet.

It amazes me how in the same post you can look to reviews about the S-Class and claim things about sound insulation and what not, yet you point to a bogus test of Distronic, when those same reviews of the S-Class have shown that Distronic works in the real world. Every magazine across the world has driven the new S-Class and not one of them reported that Distronic didn't work. Now if you have a magazine review that says different I'd love to see it, otherwise you're just bs'ng again.
So the Distronic system actually works and it was the magazine that made a mistake? That sounds like a good excuse to some people but not to me.

What does weight distribution has to do with this thread? Who says that Audis have bad weight distribution? A8 is the driver's car of the three no matter what weight distribution it has.
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So the Distronic system actually works and it was the magazine that made a mistake? That sounds like a good excuse to some people but not to me.

What does weight distribution has to do with this thread? Who says that Audis have bad weight distribution? A8 is the driver's car of the three no matter what weight distribution it has.
Yannis, it turns out that the test was faulty because they drove in an insulated hangar.... therefore it doesn't work properly...

But what the others are saying is BS I think, about the nightvision. Tell me what difference itmakes if you are driving or not? The range still sucks and you still have to look down to the instrument cluster.
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Re: S350, 730i, A8 3.2 FSI

What I'd like to point out is that when you are buying something this price, there's no such thing as the "best" IMO. What makes you rank the S class as the best?
What if I like the looks of the A8 and hated to looks of the S class.... then the A8 is the best right?
What if I like handling the most? Then 7er wins.
In terms of techonology, these 3 cars really aren't that far apart. 2 dB less driving noise isn't going to make one car that much better than the other.

My point is, these car magazines are as subjective as it can be... therefore it's so dumb to say that the S class is the "best" (whatever that means) therefore it has to be worth 10k more.
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Yannis, it turns out that the test was faulty because they drove in an insulated hangar.... therefore it doesn't work properly...
No matter if the system worked or not , the crash made it to headlines worldwide and caused a great deal of negative publicity for Mercedes:

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Mercedes double-embarassment

A couple of weeks ago Mercedes Benz had a big embarassment when its collision avoidance system failed to work spectacularly on TV.

Now, it seems that the incident was due to bungling while trying to fake the demonstration on behalf of Mercedes engineers and an Auto Bild journalist, since the engineers knew that the system wouldn't work.

Wow. Now, the Auto Bild journalist has been fired, and Mercedes is in for an even bigger embarassment.
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Even after expainations were given (or are simply excuses?) the result is the same.
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What I'd like to point out is that when you are buying something this price, there's no such thing as the "best" IMO. What makes you rank the S class as the best?
What if I like the looks of the A8 and hated to looks of the S class.... then the A8 is the best right?
What if I like handling the most? Then 7er wins.
In terms of techonology, these 3 cars really aren't that far apart. 2 dB less driving noise isn't going to make one car that much better than the other.

My point is, these car magazines are as subjective as it can be... therefore it's so dumb to say that the S class is the "best" (whatever that means) therefore it has to be worth 10k more.
So do you think it's dumb to say that the 3er is the best in its segment because it doesn't offer the comfort of the C-class or the industry leading 4wd tech of the A4?

Regarding the price you must also consider the fact that the S-class will have the best resale value (by far) which makes the price more justifiable.
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All Im saying is there are people were money matters. It sounds like some you think money dont matter which of course isnt true.
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So do you think it's dumb to say that the 3er is the best in its segment because it doesn't offer the comfort of the C-class or the industry leading 4wd tech of the A4?
its the same with 3er. just like S-class, 3er live on history and reputation therefore they sell a lot but it doesnt mean they are the best.
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its the same with 3er. just like S-class, 3er live on history and reputation therefore they sell a lot but it doesnt mean they are the best.
And where did the 3er get that reputation? of course by being the benchmark in its class with each new model. Same goes for the S-class.
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And where did the 3er get that reputation by being the benchmark in its class with each new model. Same goes for the S-class.

I dont know when but it no news that many carmakers use 3er as a benchmark. Same with S-class. Or im I wrong?
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I'm not saying that people have unlimited money and frankly that doesn't change the fact that the S-class is the better luxury car. Just like the 911 is expensive but is a better sports car than the 6er, SL and AMV8. The 7er, A8 and S-class are already very expensive cars and paying up 5-10k extra for an S-class doesn't make a huge difference since you are already up in huge sums of money. Gosh when will you guys give up and admit that although you like the 7er or A8 the S-class is the better luxury car.
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