Edmunds Inside Line - 2008 Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series vs. 2007 BMW M6 - Page 3

Just_me · 06-18-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Imhotep Evil

Also, I'd like a Sport auto shoot out, not an Edmunds one. They're barely capable of making a proper review.

the sportiest car wins in sportauto therefore CLK63 BS will win in sportauto.

Imhotep Evil · 06-18-2007, 12:19 PM

True, but the M6 will still have its areas, as mentioned.

atuv · 06-18-2007, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Imhotep Evil

1. With equall tyres the M6 reaches 200 in 12.8 sec. at best, acording to Sport Auto. I doubt the CLK BS will be near.
That AMG engine is a low to mid torque porker, while the M only really comes alive after 180 Km/h, and by that time, the V8 is out of breath.

This is too much just how a 6.2l will be out of breath and a 5.0l won't?!! come on please!! the bigger lungs of that V8 will have an advantage of course!

Just_me · 06-18-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by atuv

This is too much just how a 6.2l will be out of breath and a 5.0l won't?!! come on please!! the bigger lungs of that V8 will have an advantage of course!

they said the same about E55, that wasnt true. Now E63 is here and it can only keep up with the M5 to 200km/h. so no, bigger lungs dont have always advantage. Gearing, weight and aerodynmaics are other factors to count in. M%/M6 are extremly effective after 200km/h.

GTA8.5 · 06-18-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Imhotep Evil

1. With equall tyres the M6 reaches 200 in 12.8 sec. at best, acording to Sport Auto. I doubt the CLK BS will be near.
That AMG engine is a low to mid torque porker, while the M only really comes alive after 180 Km/h, and by that time, the V8 is out of breath.

Also, I'd like a Sport auto shoot out, not an Edmunds one. They're barely capable of making a proper review.

1. You are way overestimating the M6 here... The AMG engine is not a torque poker by any means it`s light, works faster and is more efficient than Kompressor V8. Also, don`t forget the manual-mode, it allows the M156 to speeds 50%faster.

2. The edmunds review is very scientific with the numbers and driving dynamics behind the reviews. I didn`t find bias here, it`s a good report.

Just_me · 06-18-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GTA7.5

1. Also, don`t forget the manual-mode, it allows the M156 to speeds 50%faster.

I doubt that is making a major difference.

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2. The edmunds review is very scientific with the numbers and driving dynamics behind the reviews. I didn`t find bias here, it`s a good report.

The review would be all wrong if a car with R-tires had worse numbers than a car with non R-tires. So this review has a correct verdict, otherwise it would be fishy.

RICHBOY · 06-18-2007, 03:28 PM

The CLK63 BS is a murderer!! I'm sorry that was really an unfair comparison, maybe they should of tested it against a 997 or something.

Just_me · 06-18-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RICHBOY

The CLK63 BS is a murderer!! I'm sorry that was really an unfair comparison, maybe they should of tested it against a 997 or something.

a 997 GT3 would be more correct car to compare it with.

Merc1 · 06-18-2007, 06:38 PM

I'm trying my best to not call all this a BMW excuse making session. Why is it that a Mercedes can never have a victory without all these "reasons" as to why it wasn't a fair comparo? If the M6 had won we'd be hearing about how a "regular" M car beat the crap out of a Mercedes exclusive track special.

M

RICHBOY · 06-18-2007, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Merc1

I'm trying my best to not call all this a BMW excuse making session. Why is it that a Mercedes can never have a victory without all these "reasons" as to why it wasn't a fair comparo? If the M6 had won we'd be hearing about how a "regular" M car beat the crap out of a Mercedes exclusive track special.

M

I agree totally. The way I see it BMW's top performance car got it's ass kicked, and that's that! I'm not BF Goodridge or anything so a loss is a loss. I'd love to see a M6 vs. R8 comparison. I know the R8 is underpowered and the soon to be released V10 makes more sense but I think the R8 might just do the damn thing!!

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Imhotep Evil Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,382 Thanks: 402 Thanked 279 Times in 198 Posts	Re: Edmunds Inside Line - 2008 Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series vs. 2007 BMW M6 True, but the M6 will still have its areas, as mentioned.

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RICHBOY Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 2,294 Thanks: 794 Thanked 555 Times in 346 Posts	Re: Edmunds Inside Line - 2008 Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series vs. 2007 BMW M6 The CLK63 BS is a murderer!! I'm sorry that was really an unfair comparison, maybe they should of tested it against a 997 or something.

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Merc1 Contributor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Aurora IL USA Posts: 7,272 Thanks: 1,561 Thanked 2,270 Times in 1,044 Posts	Re: Edmunds Inside Line - 2008 Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series vs. 2007 BMW M6 I'm trying my best to not call all this a BMW excuse making session. Why is it that a Mercedes can never have a victory without all these "reasons" as to why it wasn't a fair comparo? If the M6 had won we'd be hearing about how a "regular" M car beat the crap out of a Mercedes exclusive track special. M

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