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Old 06-04-2007, 12:52 PM   #31
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Re: Super SUV Test: ML63 Versus THE REST!!!

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I disagree that the new ML is better than the new X5, aside from off road capabilities witch are of no importance to 90%+ of buyers.

The new X5 is not a FL, it's a completly new car made to feel/resemble a FL. But platform, chassi, body panels, suspensions, etc. are all new.
So is the X5 better than the ML?
95% of the buyers wont even exploit 50% of the handling abilities of the X5.

A proper SUV should be able to go offroad,whether one uses it or not.
The ML can go offroad pretty well and brialliantly if u have the offroad pack,
it rides very well,it handles well(maybe not well as an X5, but atleast upto 85% of the X5 capabilities)also it is well built.The only thing where the X5 may have advantage is interior design,but then its subjective.

The ML does more things than the X5 so it is the better SUV.
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Re: Super SUV Test: ML63 Versus THE REST!!!

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The ML does more things than the X5 so it is the better SUV.
really? how come BMW sell so many X5? dont they also sell better than ML?

Both offroad and handling abilities are overrated for SUV, not many will explore those abilities.In the end SUVs are just big and fat cars.
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Old 06-04-2007, 01:12 PM   #33
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really? how come BMW sell so many X5? dont they also sell better than ML?
its sells well because of its image,the old X5 was>>>old ML and many still think its true.


US sales for May

ML-2601
X5-2858

doesn't look bad to me,considering that the X5 is 2 years younger than the ML and also i believe ML is more expensive than the X5.
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its sells well because of its image,the old X5 was>>>old ML and many still think its true.


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ML-2601
X5-2858

doesn't look bad to me,considering that the X5 is 1.5-2 years younger than the ML.
dont forget X3 . X3 certainly is highjacking some sales from X5.

and image, that certainly goes for MB as well

oh btw there are a world outside US you know
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Re: Super SUV Test: ML63 Versus THE REST!!!

In my country proper versatility counts for a lot when judging the merits of an SUV. Not to mention the ability to survive the odd bad road and not having to contact BMW-on-call to come and change a tyre for you.

I suppose it's all relative, in Africa we have lion, leopard, rhino, elephant, hyena, crocodile, hippo, buffalo, black mamba, Cape cobra, rock python and some other noteworthy critters.

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Old 06-04-2007, 01:25 PM   #36
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dont forget X3 . X3 certainly is highjacking some sales from X5.

and image, that certainly goes for MB as well

oh btw there are a world outside US you know
see X3 is not a proper comparison because its a small SAV,its not a full size one.

The same argument can be put for the GL and ML,but here both are full size SUV's and ML has 5 seats so someone who wants a 7 seater will buy the GL.

as for image i'm not talking of Mercedes image but the image of the ML as a poor product from Mercedes.

Also US has most SUV sales as a country so i believe it represents a comparative picture of how the SUV's are faring,secondly i don't have any reference to European sales for the ML and the X5.Maybe u can give me a linky dinky.
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see X3 is not a proper comparison because its a small SAV,its not a full size one.
In my country people are choosing between X5 and X3 so here its proper. Both are SAV, one is smaller and the other one is larger but they both are aiming for same things.

No sorry, sales arent my area. I'm sure Eni has salesnumbers

Anyway, the talk which one is the best is pointless to argue, its in the eye of the beholder. There are no facts or rules to determine which is the best, just personal opinions.
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In my country proper versatility counts for a lot when judging the merits of an SUV. Not to mention the ability to survive the odd bad road and not having to contact BMW-on-call to come and change a tyre for you.

I suppose it's all relative, in Africa we have lion, leopard, rhino, elephant, hyena, crocodile, hippo, buffalo, black mamba, Cape cobra, rock python and some other noteworthy critters.

In Sweden, you've got the Artist.
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Anyway, the talk which one is the best is pointless to argue, its in the eye of the beholder. There are no facts or rules to determine which is the best.
Now that is completly true.

But i really thought that the X5 and X3 were aimed at different segments,different people.
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Now that is completly true.

But i really thought that the X5 and X3 were aimed at different segments,different people.
I think there are categories for everybody. Maybe X3 is a chickcar and X5 a man's toy
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