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Old 06-02-2007, 06:35 AM   #21
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Re: Super SUV Test: ML63 Versus THE REST!!!

Well the old ml versus new and old x5 versus new


well on the ml major difference ,i owned the old fiesel 270 and now i own the 320cdi

well the design exterior is different from old the interior is totally different no simalaraties

and the drive and handling is way way ahead off the old


the old ml compared to the new is like 20 years behind...

well merc needed the ml to improve a lot becauze the last ml was poor,,i can say it for shure was 1 merc i never enjoyed........



x5

well my cousin owned the old x5 diesel and now owns the new x5 diesel

well when i see them from outside they very similar,,frount more roinder now,side very same slight slight change ,,rear lights different but sameish

interior well the gearknob is different

the display for i drive is there which wasnt and a large piece off wood in font off passenger ,,not really much different

the cubby in the x5,,is a shame


ok so old x5 was better then old ml

the new ml is imo better then the x5

the new to old ml is a big change in allareas

the new to old x5 is more a major facelift

these ae my opinions,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Re: Super SUV Test: ML63 Versus THE REST!!!

Great SUV's to have! V8 or TDI is a must (depends on the car). But, I think 5 sec acceleration is the last thing that a Jeep would need, you know, it should concentrate as a purposeful 4wd or maybe spending more effort on the "macho" appeal.

It's almost the same case with "Made in Australia" Ford performance SUV, these cars are impressively fast, but there is no comparison against its European rivals' knowhow.

Only one explanation left (pioneered by BMW), 4WD market is yesterday's story, Fast SUV market is going strong!

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Re: Super SUV Test: ML63 Versus THE REST!!!

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Well the old ml versus new and old x5 versus new


well on the ml major difference ,i owned the old fiesel 270 and now i own the 320cdi

well the design exterior is different from old the interior is totally different no simalaraties

and the drive and handling is way way ahead off the old


the old ml compared to the new is like 20 years behind...

well merc needed the ml to improve a lot becauze the last ml was poor,,i can say it for shure was 1 merc i never enjoyed........



x5

well my cousin owned the old x5 diesel and now owns the new x5 diesel

well when i see them from outside they very similar,,frount more roinder now,side very same slight slight change ,,rear lights different but sameish

interior well the gearknob is different

the display for i drive is there which wasnt and a large piece off wood in font off passenger ,,not really much different

the cubby in the x5,,is a shame


ok so old x5 was better then old ml

the new ml is imo better then the x5

the new to old ml is a big change in allareas

the new to old x5 is more a major facelift

these ae my opinions,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
thank you.. take it from someone who has experienced both cars
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Re: Super SUV Test: ML63 Versus THE REST!!!

I'd like to add that both the ML and X5 excel at different things. Magazines and editors might compare them to each other, but they were designed with different ideals in mind - and different customers as well. These arguments about which SUV is "better" are silly and childish.
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Re: Super SUV Test: ML63 Versus THE REST!!!

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thank you.. take it from someone who has experienced both cars
I know people that own both ML and X5 as well, some went for X5, others went for the ML. That's Fortune opinion, obvious everyone dont agree with him cause then everyone would buy the ML. Simply as that.
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Re: Super SUV Test: ML63 Versus THE REST!!!

In my opinion the ML is the better sport utility vehicle when comparing non-performance (read AMG) oriented models. In fairness, BMW haven't shown the X5 M-derivative so we're not comparing apples with apples.

The ML63 is severly compromised off tarmac whereas standard MLs are actually quite adept at handling the rough stuff.

In this company it's down to two uber-SUVs: the Cayenne Turbo and the ML63. Heads or tails...
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Re: Super SUV Test: ML63 Versus THE REST!!!

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Well the old ml versus new and old x5 versus new


well on the ml major difference ,i owned the old fiesel 270 and now i own the 320cdi

well the design exterior is different from old the interior is totally different no simalaraties

and the drive and handling is way way ahead off the old


the old ml compared to the new is like 20 years behind...

well merc needed the ml to improve a lot becauze the last ml was poor,,i can say it for shure was 1 merc i never enjoyed........



x5

well my cousin owned the old x5 diesel and now owns the new x5 diesel

well when i see them from outside they very similar,,frount more roinder now,side very same slight slight change ,,rear lights different but sameish

interior well the gearknob is different

the display for i drive is there which wasnt and a large piece off wood in font off passenger ,,not really much different

the cubby in the x5,,is a shame


ok so old x5 was better then old ml

the new ml is imo better then the x5

the new to old ml is a big change in allareas

the new to old x5 is more a major facelift

these ae my opinions,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I disagree that the new ML is better than the new X5, aside from off road capabilities witch are of no importance to 90%+ of buyers.

The new X5 is not a FL, it's a completly new car made to feel/resemble a FL. But platform, chassi, body panels, suspensions, etc. are all new.
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Re: Super SUV Test: ML63 Versus THE REST!!!

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In my opinion the ML is the better sport utility vehicle when comparing non-performance (read AMG) oriented models. In fairness, BMW haven't shown the X5 M-derivative so we're not comparing apples with apples.

The ML63 is severly compromised off tarmac whereas standard MLs are actually quite adept at handling the rough stuff.

In this company it's down to two uber-SUVs: the Cayenne Turbo and the ML63. Heads or tails...

ML for the track, Turbo for off road.
Do they come with flexi wings, mass dampers and Co. ?!

I feel that the should have been different, rear or mid-rear engined to stay true to its Porsche-ness.
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Re: Super SUV Test: ML63 Versus THE REST!!!

IE, your obsession with F1 tech in production road cars is bordering on unhealthy!
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