AutoBild: Alfa 159 2.4D vs Audi A4 2.0TDI vs BMW 320d vs Lexus IS 220d vs MB C220CDI

KokkenTor · 05-11-2007, 11:39 AM

1. BMW 320d – 485p, 163hp, 0-100km/h 8.8s, 1540kg
2. Mercedes C220d – 480p, 170hp, 0-100km/h 8.7s, 1640kg
3. Audi A4 2.0TDI – 467p, 170hp, 0-100km/h 9.1s, 1540kg
4. Alfa 159 2.4JTD – 445p, 200hp, 0-100km/h 8.9s, 1725kg
5. Lexus IS 220d – 436p, 177hp, 0-100km/h 10.7s, 1690kg

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shonguiz · 05-11-2007, 12:01 PM

Last week a bimmer won in ams and now in autobild, what happened ?

EnI · 05-11-2007, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shonguiz

Last week a bimmer won in ams and now in autobild, what happened ?

I guess BMW Deutschland got bigger budget for bribing the press.

Just_me · 05-11-2007, 01:48 PM

same cars, different carmag here

http://www.germancarzone.com/interna...assat-tdi.html

cawimmer430 · 05-12-2007, 11:00 AM

The Lexus IS220d is not getting good reviews here. The same engine is shared with the Toyota Avensis diesel and while 177-hp are a lot, the engine lacks refinement and is often described as "sounding like a tractor". A nice try by Lexus, but it lacks so many things to be truly competitive against the Europeans on their home turf.

The Alfa Romeo 159 is a hotty. A friend of my father just got a golden-brown / smoke silver 159 and it's hot!

Kowalski · 05-12-2007, 12:02 PM

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Lexus IS 220d – 436p, 177hp, 0-100km/h 10.7s, 1690kg

*The Lexus IS one lardy sack!*

*Pardon the pun!*

Imhotep Evil · 05-12-2007, 12:12 PM

4. Alfa 159 2.4JTD – 445p, 200hp, 0-100km/h 8.9s, 1725kg

shonguiz · 05-12-2007, 12:13 PM

Agreed, from the begining i thought this magnificent car was heavy, too heavy.

Yannis · 05-12-2007, 12:19 PM

Alfa Romeo 159 is a joke. Even the ageing A4 is much better in every aspect.

Now it's time for Audi to launch the new 204 hp 2.0 lt TDI engine and crash the competition.

Imhotep Evil · 05-12-2007, 12:40 PM

He, he, he ... the new BMW 2.0 ltr vtt diesel with 2004 hp 400 Nm is coming too.

And wouldn't it be nice with a ZSG.

05-11-2007, 11:39 AM	#1
KokkenTor Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 201 Thanks: 93 Thanked 417 Times in 105 Posts	AutoBild: Alfa 159 2.4D vs Audi A4 2.0TDI vs BMW 320d vs Lexus IS 220d vs MB C220CDI 1. BMW 320d – 485p, 163hp, 0-100km/h 8.8s, 1540kg 2. Mercedes C220d – 480p, 170hp, 0-100km/h 8.7s, 1640kg 3. Audi A4 2.0TDI – 467p, 170hp, 0-100km/h 9.1s, 1540kg 4. Alfa 159 2.4JTD – 445p, 200hp, 0-100km/h 8.9s, 1725kg 5. Lexus IS 220d – 436p, 177hp, 0-100km/h 10.7s, 1690kg - ONLY REGISTERED AND ACTIVATED USERS CAN SEE ALL LINKS - CLICK HERE TO REGISTER

05-11-2007, 12:01 PM	#2
shonguiz Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,917 Thanks: 302 Thanked 543 Times in 273 Posts	Re: AutoBild: Alfa 159 2.4D vs Audi A4 2.0TDI vs BMW 320d vs Lexus IS 220d vs MB C220 Last week a bimmer won in ams and now in autobild, what happened ?

05-11-2007, 01:48 PM	#4
Just_me Executive Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 15,498 Thanks: 1,062 Thanked 3,722 Times in 1,583 Posts	Re: AutoBild: Alfa 159 2.4D vs Audi A4 2.0TDI vs BMW 320d vs Lexus IS 220d vs MB C220 same cars, different carmag here http://www.germancarzone.com/interna...assat-tdi.html

05-12-2007, 11:00 AM	#5
cawimmer430 Contributor Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Mühldorf am Inn, Germany Posts: 8,044 Thanks: 3,975 Thanked 3,189 Times in 1,366 Posts	Re: AutoBild: Alfa 159 2.4D vs Audi A4 2.0TDI vs BMW 320d vs Lexus IS 220d vs MB C220 The Lexus IS220d is not getting good reviews here. The same engine is shared with the Toyota Avensis diesel and while 177-hp are a lot, the engine lacks refinement and is often described as "sounding like a tractor". A nice try by Lexus, but it lacks so many things to be truly competitive against the Europeans on their home turf. The Alfa Romeo 159 is a hotty. A friend of my father just got a golden-brown / smoke silver 159 and it's hot!

05-12-2007, 12:12 PM	#7
Imhotep Evil Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,383 Thanks: 402 Thanked 279 Times in 198 Posts	Re: AutoBild: Alfa 159 2.4D vs Audi A4 2.0TDI vs BMW 320d vs Lexus IS 220d vs MB C220 4. Alfa 159 2.4JTD – 445p, 200hp, 0-100km/h 8.9s, *1725kg*

05-12-2007, 12:13 PM	#8
shonguiz Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,917 Thanks: 302 Thanked 543 Times in 273 Posts	Re: AutoBild: Alfa 159 2.4D vs Audi A4 2.0TDI vs BMW 320d vs Lexus IS 220d vs MB C220 Agreed, from the begining i thought this magnificent car was heavy, too heavy.

05-12-2007, 12:19 PM	#9
Yannis Contributor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Greece Posts: 8,283 Thanks: 1,886 Thanked 1,800 Times in 1,025 Posts	Re: AutoBild: Alfa 159 2.4D vs Audi A4 2.0TDI vs BMW 320d vs Lexus IS 220d vs MB C220 Alfa Romeo 159 is a joke. Even the ageing A4 is much better in every aspect. Now it's time for Audi to launch the new 204 hp 2.0 lt TDI engine and crash the competition.

05-12-2007, 12:40 PM	#10
Imhotep Evil Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,383 Thanks: 402 Thanked 279 Times in 198 Posts	Re: AutoBild: Alfa 159 2.4D vs Audi A4 2.0TDI vs BMW 320d vs Lexus IS 220d vs MB C220 He, he, he ... the new BMW 2.0 ltr vtt diesel with 2004 hp 400 Nm is coming too. And wouldn't it be nice with a ZSG.

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