New Proposals for 2008 from WMSC

shonguiz · 12-07-2007, 09:37 AM

I am So Sad.

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A number of principles for cost reduction were agreed for the FIA Formula One World Championship.

The following aerodynamic testing restrictions will be applied from 2008:

• Teams to use no more than one wind tunnel.
• Test fluid to be air at atmospheric pressure.
• Maximum test section wind speed 50m/sec.
• Maximum model scale 60%.
• No more than one model to be tested during a run.
• Maximum usage to be equivalent to 15 runs per 8 hour day on 5 days per week for team F1 purposes. Tunnel may be contracted out at other times.
• Aerodynamic testing may only take place in wind tunnels if at reduced scale or at FIA approved test tracks if full scale. Full size testing to be subject to the F1 testing agreement.
• Full scale specific aerodynamic testing is to be reduced to 5 days/year.
• Restrictions will be imposed to stop shift of resource from wind tunnel testing to CFD.
• The number of people involved in CFD development will be limited to a number to be agreed.
• CFD computer systems will be characterised in order to set hardware performance limits but growth will be allowed year-on-year to allow for hardware / software development.

Other restrictions will be placed on Rig Testing, Design and Manufacturing, Suspension and Brakes, Hydraulic Systems, Bodywork, Weight Distribution, Circuit Testing and the number of personnel at races.

coolraoul · 12-07-2007, 09:41 AM

If it continues like that, I think in few years a Dacia Logan Cup will be faster and technically more advanced than a F1...

shonguiz · 12-07-2007, 09:43 AM

The thing is : how will they monitore teams to make sure they respect limitaions about CFD and Wintunnels ?

coolraoul · 12-07-2007, 09:47 AM

Easy: the teams will spy each other and sue those who do not respect if they are faster...

Could be a funny year

siko · 12-07-2007, 10:03 AM

Why those the FIA continue to impede development…

coolraoul · 12-07-2007, 10:06 AM

This is the 1,000,000$ question...

bmer · 12-07-2007, 11:00 AM

FIA = Federation Intolerant of Advancement

Centurion · 12-07-2007, 11:02 AM

If this trend continues F1 cars will in ten years be reduced to go-karts.

Imhotep Evil · 12-07-2007, 11:36 AM

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^ From when Mosley arrived we've lost active suspensions (= less mechanical grip, less aero efficiency, less balance), the clean aero (early 1990s wings and diffuser), slicks (witch will return), downforce (the production Caparo T1 will more of it), V10 power (close/equall to 1000 hp in 2005).

When will this madness stop ?!

Without the performance and the technology, F1 will become some idiotic star search and branding business.

shonguiz · 12-07-2007, 11:47 AM

The automakers shouldn't have signed the Accord deal and instead they should have really launched the GPMA championship, even without Ferrari.

12-07-2007, 09:41 AM	#2
coolraoul Advocate Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: France (but actually internship in Germany) Posts: 943 Thanks: 183 Thanked 371 Times in 206 Posts	Re: New Proposals for 2008 from WMSC If it continues like that, I think in few years a Dacia Logan Cup will be faster and technically more advanced than a F1...

12-07-2007, 09:43 AM	#3
shonguiz Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,917 Thanks: 302 Thanked 543 Times in 273 Posts	Re: New Proposals for 2008 from WMSC The thing is : how will they monitore teams to make sure they respect limitaions about CFD and Wintunnels ?

12-07-2007, 09:47 AM	#4
coolraoul Advocate Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: France (but actually internship in Germany) Posts: 943 Thanks: 183 Thanked 371 Times in 206 Posts	Re: New Proposals for 2008 from WMSC Easy: the teams will spy each other and sue those who do not respect if they are faster... Could be a funny year

12-07-2007, 10:03 AM	#5
siko Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 4,577 Thanks: 1,655 Thanked 1,573 Times in 736 Posts	Re: New Proposals for 2008 from WMSC Why those the FIA continue to impede development…

12-07-2007, 10:06 AM	#6
coolraoul Advocate Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: France (but actually internship in Germany) Posts: 943 Thanks: 183 Thanked 371 Times in 206 Posts	Re: New Proposals for 2008 from WMSC This is the 1,000,000$ question...

12-07-2007, 11:00 AM	#7
bmer Devotee Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,904 Thanks: 1,547 Thanked 669 Times in 405 Posts	Re: New Proposals for 2008 from WMSC FIA = Federation Intolerant of Advancement

12-07-2007, 11:02 AM	#8
Centurion Jetsetter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 9,202 Thanks: 1,037 Thanked 1,507 Times in 805 Posts	Re: New Proposals for 2008 from WMSC If this trend continues F1 cars will in ten years be reduced to go-karts.

12-07-2007, 11:36 AM	#9
Imhotep Evil Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,382 Thanks: 402 Thanked 279 Times in 198 Posts	Re: New Proposals for 2008 from WMSC > ^ From when Mosley arrived we've lost active suspensions (= less mechanical grip, less aero efficiency, less balance), the clean aero (early 1990s wings and diffuser), slicks (witch will return), downforce (the production Caparo T1 will more of it), V10 power (close/equall to 1000 hp in 2005). When will this madness stop ?! Without the performance and the technology, F1 will become some idiotic star search and branding business.

12-07-2007, 11:47 AM	#10
shonguiz Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,917 Thanks: 302 Thanked 543 Times in 273 Posts	Re: New Proposals for 2008 from WMSC The automakers shouldn't have signed the Accord deal and instead they should have really launched the GPMA championship, even without Ferrari.

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