Japanese Car Zone
    

Go Back   Japanese Car Zone > Other Forums > European Cars > BMW > BMW AG (Other) > MINI > Clubman



Welcome to Japanese Car Zone.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will be able to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own pictures and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please,
join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-07-2007, 01:28 AM   #1
Contributor
 
Merc1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Aurora IL USA
Posts: 7,272
Thanks: 1,561
Thanked 2,270 Times in 1,044 Posts
Merc1 is a splendid one to beholdMerc1 is a splendid one to beholdMerc1 is a splendid one to beholdMerc1 is a splendid one to beholdMerc1 is a splendid one to beholdMerc1 is a splendid one to beholdMerc1 is a splendid one to beholdMerc1 is a splendid one to beholdMerc1 is a splendid one to beholdMerc1 is a splendid one to beholdMerc1 is a splendid one to behold
Edmunds Inside Line - First Drive: 2008 Mini Cooper S Clubman


















More Doors, More Cargo, More Mini


We come to the 2008 Mini Cooper S Clubman with more than the usual sense of curiosity. After all, the Mini is a great car, but it's also not a car for everybody.

Now Mini has brought us an even stranger version of an already eccentric car, a stretched-out model with three doors for people and two doors for cargo. And yet Mini expects the new car to eventually account for more than a quarter of all its sales worldwide.

The crucial question is: Has Mini managed to preserve the qualities that have made its standard model such a hit even as it reaches out to a broader audience with this stretched version of its iconic small car?

The Traveller in Madrid

We drove the new 2008 Mini Cooper S Clubman around the sprawling Spanish capital of Madrid earlier this week. Gert Hildebrand, Mini's design boss, says the idea for the stretched Mini did not stem from the marketing department but rather his own design team. "When we set about designing the second-generation model we laid down a few sketches on how we thought its appeal could be extended," Hildebrand says. "We then presented it to the board members of BMW, and they decided it had potential."

The Clubman got its first public view at the 2005 Frankfurt Auto Show as the Mini Traveller, although by then it was already well on the way to production. While the elongated shape might not ignite wild passions, the detailing and engineering are hugely impressive.

Though the wheelbase has been stretched 3.1 inches, the changes over the standard Mini begin at the trailing edge of the front doors, helping to preserve the car's flagrantly retro lines. The narrow club door is mounted on the right-hand side. Just like the Honda Element, Toyota FJ Cruiser and various pickup trucks, you have to open the front passenger door and then release a lever to get access.

The Back Door

While the club door provides the Clubman with a modern twist, its rear barn doors are a clear nod to the past, having first appeared on the original 1950s Morris Mini Traveller. A lovely pair of horizontal chrome handles unlatches the doors, and they eagerly spring outward on gas struts.

Hildebrand comments, "We wanted to offer the widest possible opening. After trying many different setups this is the one we finally arrived at. It's a complex solution. To fulfill all the various legal regulations, the rear lights need to be fixed to the car, not to the door."

The Mini two-door's simple hatchback arrangement is far easier to operate and a good deal more practical in everyday use. But there is something special about the Clubman's barn doors that will draw prospective buyers to the car.

The overall design of the Clubman's rear end also attempts to mimic the exposed wooden trim of the original Traveller, as the corner panels and rear bumper carry a contrasting color. It's a nice touch that further gives the Clubman its own unique identity.

Not so Mini

That said, Mini is not really an appropriate name for this car, because plainly it isn't mini at all. It's still small, but its overall length of 155.8 inches represents a stretch of 6.3 inches, enough to push the Clubman into an altogether different class. Aside from the 3.1 inches added within the wheelbase, the front overhang has been extended by 0.6 inch and the rear overhang goes up by 3.5 inches.

Get behind the steering wheel and it's all familiar territory. An almost comically oversize speedometer dominates proceedings from the center of the dashboard, which is otherwise detailed with a mixed assortment of contemporary rotary dials and ye olde world toggle switches.

The real changes are concentrated out back, where that additional wheelbase is used to extend rear-seat legroom, making the rear of the Clubman a more enjoyable place to be than any standard Mini. The rear seat remains reasonably snug, but you no longer need the flexibility of an Olympic gymnast to remain there for any length of time.

The longer rear overhang also sees cargo capacity increase by 3.5 cubic feet to 9.1 cubic feet. With the split-fold rear seats tucked away, overall cargo capacity grows to 33.0 cubic feet.

Let's Motor

The Clubman will be sold in North America with a choice of the Mini's two existing four-cylinder engines. The Cooper S we drove in Spain has its direct-injection, turbocharged 1.6-liter inline-4, producing 175 horsepower at 5,500 rpm and 177 pound-feet of torque from 1,600 rpm. The Cooper version, meanwhile, gets a naturally aspirated version of the same engine, developing 120 hp and 118 lb-ft of torque.

The Cooper S Clubman's engine is hugely flexible around town, even at small throttle openings. The electrically operated power steering surprisingly combines light effort with highly direct action. The Clubman's wheelbase has increased the turning circle slightly over the standard Mini, but we hardly noticed.

Just as you'd expect in a Mini, you can nip in and out of tight spaces in traffic with ease and a great deal of confidence. One downside of the new car's barn doors, however, is the center pillar running through the middle of the rear windows, which obscures rear vision so much that you have to rely on the exterior rearview mirrors.

On the go, the Cooper S Clubman's engine impresses with effortless pull. There's minimal lag from the turbocharger, seamless power delivery through the midrange and then serious punch close to its 6,500-rpm redline. The standard six-speed manual gearbox helps you stir it all up nicely with well-chosen ratios, slick action between the gates and a firm clutch action.

At 2,712 pounds, the Clubman weighs 143 pounds more than the standard Mini Cooper S, but we hardly noticed any dent in its performance profile. Mini claims 100 kph (62 mph) comes up in 7.6 seconds, some 0.5 second slower than the standard Cooper S. The top speed of the Clubman is rated at 139 mph.

No Personality Deficit

At this point in our drive, we learned the reason why our drive through the Spanish countryside favored some magnificent winding roads and avoided long stints on the highway.

Despite the clear emphasis on versatility from its larger footprint, the new Clubman manages to retain all the sporting fun of the standard two-door. Our only real criticism involves the torque steer that's apparent while accelerating hard from low speeds. Part of the reason can be found in the additional weight at the back of the car. Second, the front wheels now carry a brake-regeneration system to produce electrical power for the battery, so the alternator is disengaged from the engine during acceleration. (This brake-regeneration system will not be available on U.S. models until later next year, however.)

The way the Clubman rides really got our attention. The longer wheelbase not only liberates more space inside, it also provides the Mini Clubman with a smoother and more controlled ride. There's less flutter in the suspension over rough pavement, and once ruffled by large bumps, the suspension tends to settle faster.

The long wheelbase also enhances high-speed stability. The Mini Clubman tracks with greater authority on the highway and proves far less prone to being thrown off line by nasty camber changes than its standard sibling. Only the car's occasional sensitivity to crosswinds can be criticized.

For tackling long distances, this is probably the Mini to have. It's less frenetic than its popular stablemate and the added layer of comfort soothes the miles away, making it surprisingly mature.

Still Unconventional

The Mini Clubman is not a car you can easily pigeonhole. This in itself might be its biggest asset.

The Clubman's unconventional five-door layout will no doubt appeal to a lot of people who have tired of the familiar hatchback theme served up by just about every small car on the road today. It's not the roomiest car in its class by any stretch of the imagination, yet the addition of the small club door lifts the Mini's appeal greatly.

And what the Clubman lacks in space, it more than makes up for in driving enjoyment. That's the clincher for us.



- ONLY REGISTERED AND ACTIVATED USERS CAN SEE ALL LINKS - CLICK HERE TO REGISTER

M
Merc1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Old 09-07-2007, 01:38 AM   #2
Connoisseur
 
Deutsch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: L.A.
Posts: 5,766
Thanks: 492
Thanked 673 Times in 318 Posts
Deutsch is a glorious beacon of lightDeutsch is a glorious beacon of lightDeutsch is a glorious beacon of lightDeutsch is a glorious beacon of lightDeutsch is a glorious beacon of lightDeutsch is a glorious beacon of lightDeutsch is a glorious beacon of lightDeutsch is a glorious beacon of light
Re: Edmunds Inside Line - First Drive: 2008 Mini Cooper S Clubman

I really like this car. The design is well done, I like how they masked the length and proportioning of the roof by giving it a contrasting color to the rest of the body. A bit gimmicky but it works. I'd consider this car if I were on the market, for sure.

Last edited by Deutsch; 09-07-2007 at 02:08 AM..
Deutsch is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
2008, clubman, cooper, drive, edmunds, inside, line, mini
Search Cloud
"2009 porsche 911 turbo" "cars as fashion" "hannes oosthuizen" "johan wejedal" "loic kernen" 2008 honda accord 2009 audi r8 2009 wrx 3mturing 600 swb amazing car amg+w124 antivirus astra sedan audi a3 audi a4 b8 s line audi a5 audi a8 audi on gallardo wheels audi rs audi rs 8 audi rs4 b5 audi rs6 audi rs6 new audi rs8 audi s3 audi s5 benz 230e w123 bmw 3 series bmw 333is bmw 502 for sale bmw e30 333is bmw sport bugatti c class w204 umi navigation car zone car zone japan carzone carzone japan carzone tuning cl63 amg ferarri wallpaper fiat sedici flewitt coachbuilders fortuner ganizonda hamann m6 hanomag rl20 zu verkaufen honda honda accord coupe 2008 honda civic honda civic mugen rr honda fit http://www.japanesecarzone.com/q7/11986-audi-q7-got-tangled.html interior designer bmw f01/2 inurl:thread funkey itzkirbphotography.com japanese car zone japanese carzone japanesecarforum.com japanesecarzone.com koenesig koenesig ccx lambo's lamborghini alar lamborghini embolado lamborghini muira lamborghinis lexus rs400h vs mercedes ml320 cdi m6 maxima interior mazda5 mercedes 600 swb mercedes c tenorit mercedes c126 amg mercedes pre-save inactive mercedes w112 heckflosse mercedes w204 umi new audi rs6 nissan gt-r merc1 pagani zonda vin paganikon phaeton playboy mustang rav4 rs4 rs6 rs8 seat leon fr1 skyline gtr skywarim drive tiguan toyota venza volt concept vw torsional rigidity nm/degree w126 w204 interior w204 palladium silver w211 e320 faults www.japanesecarzone.com

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:58 AM.