Originally Posted by Marquez

All The Audi [S] Models are I'm not shocked by the 3,5 of 5 rating

Originally Posted by Choleric

Originally Posted by Marquez

Hmm... not the S1 of course!!!!!
but the rest no...
[RS] Audi's are wounderful & Brutale

Originally Posted by Choleric

Of course theyre wonderful but so ar S cars. Most people buying Audi's aren't able to afford RS cars, so S cars make perfect sense and in daily driving, which is what most use their cars for, are just as fun and capable as an RS car.

Originally Posted by Marquez

JUST AS FUN ? You need a [RS] to have real fun!
Poor [S] owner's ..

Originally Posted by Mirage77

Still, what makes you so sure it's so much better than the NA 3.2 Quattro?

Originally Posted by martinbo

In a nutshell, Mirage77, the S3 will be more focused and far more sporty. The current 3.2 quattro is, well, a little soft in my opinion. And it's every bit a front-wheel drive biased Haldex setup with 100% of the drive going to the front in normal conditions. In the S3 more of the torque is sent aft as a predefined torque-split configuration under neutral driving conditions.

Originally Posted by Choleric

Originally Posted by Audiholic

Co-sign that. Marquez, you really need to think twice before you post such a post!!

Originally Posted by Marquez

I don't like the S cars.. and I thinks it's very right when you see a test when the S loses against Vw R32 and A BMW 1-Series 130i. The S means nothing...

If the test had been done with the 3.2 V6, A3 I sure the outcome would be different!

Why do we need a S that is only for losing ?

Audi A4 3.2 V6 quattro 712 000,- 255 BHP

Audi S4 4.2 V8 1 057 000,- 344BHP

Audi [RS]4 4.2 1 320 000,- 420 BHP

BUY The A or the RS ... S stands for Somthing I dont know..

Why hasn't BMW or Mercedes a middle car ? Because it's not nesessary.. !

Only car in the world that is worth to have the real [S] badge is the Audi S1

Originally Posted by Choleric

I don't see why it is so hard for everybody to understand the purpose of the S4, It's pretty clear actually. The RS 4 is what, $66K while the S4 is $48K, so more people are going to be able to afford the S4 than the RS 4.

Audi has 4 models in their small luxary car segment just like BMW and they are all gradually spaced apart, so there is something for everybody depending on price or performance.

A4 2.0T $28K - 200hp
A4 3.2 $36K - 255hp
S4 4.2 $48K - 340hp
RS 4 $66K - 420hp

S4 makes perfect sense to me, which explains why I see more S4s driving around than RS 4s.

Likewise here is BMW where the coupe takes the place of the S4

328i $32K - 230hp
335i $39K - 300hp
335icoupe $42K - 300hp
M3 ??????

Mercedes

C230 $30K - 200hp
C280 $35K - 230hp
C350 $40K - 270hp
C55 ??????
C63 ??????