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Old 10-02-2007, 01:43 AM   #81
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Re: OFFICIAL: 1-Series Convertible

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Yes, but as we've said before: the people at your dealership are retards and should be fired. Saying you should buy a second hand 3er over the 1er......mind blowing!!!!
Two completely different cars. You rather pay for the heavier more comfortable 3er sedan? Fine, but they're different cars. Taking a second hand 3er over the 1er because they 'cost the same' makes no sense whatsoever in my book.

Oh, and I think the 1er coupe is about the sportiest car in BMWs line-up, sans the M models. No woman wants one, I'm sure. IF they want an 1er (which is a manly car to begin with, unlike for example the Audi A3, the ultimate female car) they want a 5-door hatchback.

One thing I do agree on: the coupe looks more 'sporty' than the cabrio.
take no offense from my post, it's just that ... well, i'll make more comment if i see it in person, but i'm just not liking it from the pics...
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:07 AM   #82
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take no offense from my post, it's just that ... well, i'll make more comment if i see it in person, but i'm just not liking it from the pics...
I don't man! You are very much entitled to dislike the 1er (or, maybe like the 3er more?).
I just think it's crazy what those people at the dealership are telling you!
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Re: OFFICIAL: 1-Series Convertible

I believe that 9 out of 10 conv. will be bought by females or the elderly here in the U.S.
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Re: OFFICIAL: 1-Series Convertible

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I believe that 9 out of 10 conv. will be bought by females or the elderly here in the U.S.
I don't think there is anything wrong with that .....is there?
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Re: OFFICIAL: 1-Series Convertible

^^ Ummm, apart from the fact that those females will be 20-something Paris Hilton wannabe's... and that those old folks will either not fully exploit the sporting dynamics of the car, or some 60+ year old guy with a bold head will be driving around desperately trying to recapture his youth.

So umm.. nope, nothing wrong with that Rob.
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Old 10-03-2007, 07:08 PM   #86
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Re: OFFICIAL: 1-Series Convertible

Well, alright. They'll be 20-year-old Paris Hilton wannabes as opposed to 40-year-old Tommy Lee posers.

I don't see how it really matters that a newer demographic of douchebags are brought into the fold. The vast majority of BMW buyers are buying it because it's a fashionable status vehicle with a good reputation - not because it's a driver's car.

I would have an issue with BMW dipping the MSRP into VW and Mini territory, but the 1er Cabrio is destined to be an expensive car. With the 3er Cabrio now costing an arm and a leg, I see plenty of justification for the presence of a 1er Cab in the US market.

While I'll agree that it seems like a girl's car, I have to wonder why that is. Why do compact convertibles carry a feminine & gay stigma in the US?
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Re: OFFICIAL: 1-Series Convertible

I believe it's the design. They're shorter, more stubby than a full grown cabrio. Men want long and straight not short and stubby. Do I have to say the "p" word?
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Re: OFFICIAL: 1-Series Convertible

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^^ Ummm, apart from the fact that those females will be 20-something Paris Hilton wannabe's... and that those old folks will either not fully exploit the sporting dynamics of the car, or some 60+ year old guy with a bold head will be driving around desperately trying to recapture his youth.

So umm.. nope, nothing wrong with that Rob.

Hmmm, I am sure there is irony in there somewhere - when someone says they'd rather not own a car cause a certain image conscious crowd is associated with the car.

Most 911 drives are probably 60+ pot bellied and balding - doesn't make the 911 any less desirable.
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While I'll agree that it seems like a girl's car, I have to wonder why that is. Why do compact convertibles carry a feminine & gay stigma in the US?
I think the answer is in your question, it is there dimensions. The VW Eos for example and Cabrio before it were so short and stubby and that basket handle the Cabrio had really made it look like a chic's car. The A3 Cabrio will look the same way as will this 3-Series cabrio. They're too short and don't have enough sheetmetal to give them a masculine presence like say 335i and they aren't 2-seaters like the SL or XK (well ingore the mini-rear seats) so they don't have the sports car "squat" to them. They're tall, upright, boxy and look like decapitated "small" cars.

Meanwhile a lot of 135 coupes will be sold to young men, either way it is going to be all good for BMW.


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Re: OFFICIAL: 1-Series Convertible



This is ‘one’ BMW you’ll certainly be seen in – it’s the new 1-Series Con*vertible! Following on from the Coupé version, these are the first official pictures of the striking drop-top, which will further extend the model range when it goes on sale here in the spring.

The newcomer allows BMW to steal a march on arch-rival Audi, as it will arrive in showrooms ahead of the A3 Cabriolet (Issue 975), which is due in summer 2008. With an electric folding cloth roof, leather trim and a 306bhp turbo petrol engine for the flagship, the 1-Series is certain to be a hit.

As with the Coupé, the Convertible adds a curvier lower spoiler, sporty door sills and a shapely rear bumper to the baby BMW’s design. But the biggest change is the roof.

The electrically operated soft-top can be raised or lowered in 22 seconds at speeds of up to 25mph. It folds completely flat at the touch of a button, leaving a simple rear deck with a third brake lamp integrated into the bootlid spoiler and new LED tail-lights.

The hood is available in a range of colours, including a new finish with shiny threads woven into the fabric to give a metallic look in sunlight.

Inside, the cabin is identical to other 1-Series models’, although it is available with a more powerful climate control system which – as in the 3-Series drop-top – has a special setting to keep the interior temperature constant when the roof is folded. This combines with a wind deflector behind the rear headrests to provide maximum comfort.

Luggage room is tight, at 240 litres with the lid stowed – that’s 90 litres less than in the hatch. But some space is clawed back by a special stor*age area that becomes available when the roof is up, liberating 40 litres of additional carrying capacity.

There’s also the option of a clever ‘Transit Bag’. This emerges through a hatch in the rear seats, and can carry two sets of golf clubs or two snowboards, while an optional rack is available with space for two bicycles.

Other neat features include special pigments in the leather trim that reflect the sun’s heat energy, preventing the seats getting too hot on summer days.

Safety is top of the agenda, with twin rollover bars which pop up from behind the rear headrests if necessary. A full complement of airbags, active headrests and traction and stability control systems are standard, too.

With its front-engined, rear-wheel-drive layout, the 1-Series Convertible is aimed at keen drivers – and no var*iant more so than the flagship 135i, which features a 3.0-litre straight-six twin-turbo engine delivering 306bhp.

This car is capable of 0-62mph in 5.6 seconds and has an electronically limited top speed of 155mph. To cope with the pace, it features M Sport sus*pension and larger brakes, along with a bodykit, branded 18-inch alloys and a unique leather steering wheel.

As well as the 306bhp 135i, buyers will have a choice of 143bhp 118i, 170bhp 120i and 218bhp 125i petrol models. Only one diesel – the 175bhp 120d – will be available from launch, with a 201bhp 123d to arrive later.

All cars get the Efficient Dyna*mics system – which includes brake energy regeneration – but the 118i, 120i and 120d also have Auto Stop-Start, which cuts the engine in stationary traffic.

Although BMW bosses have yet to reveal prices, the 1-Series Convertible line-up is expected to range from around £22,000 for the entry-level 118i to £30,000 for the 135i.


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